AWD to RWD thread, official [Merged 10-7]

[TWEAKD4]

If you are indeed serious about such a big project I would suggest contacting Buschur. They have converted a few talons and put the 4G63 into starquests and even a mustang with custom mounts. It won't be cheap unless you are a hands on guy and can fab things up yourself.

 

[mavisky]

why is it that these kind of questions all come up at the same time. this is the 2nd or 3rd question about this topic and from what i've grasped, none of the posters have the money or intellect to finish this. in fact i'd be willing to bet that the total number of people in this country that could handle this swap could be counted on an amputee's hand.

 

[TurboDSMer]

actually, Chris Blanc at Reitman Racing is working on just such a setup... i dont know if they have it advertised yet but you could always check out the site, www.reitmanracing.com.

on a side note, my car was RWD for a lil while, it ran an 18+ sec 1/4 @ 125 mph becuase the center diff snapped and spun the rear wheels the whole way down the track.

 

[TERBOLASER]

Well first off don't doubt every body becuase you dont see it.Every one doubted those two guys who decided they wanted to make a twin engine talon awd. And guess what now they are rolling around in a twin engine dsm. Its not money that is need and it isn't hard to do conversions you just have to have the balls to do it your self and have the equipment. When I say have the balls to do it I mean have the heart to try to do something you have never done before all on your own brain and planning. Instead of getting ripped off on it taking it to a shop.( not always getting ripped off bushur is good at what they do). but RWD drive would be easily ( or easier to achieve) achieved if you made it a mid engine car. basically put the entire front wheel drive system in the back of the car like the mr2. it would be an awesome car . The ultimate drift eclipse some custom work would have to be done of course like making a suitable engine bay in the rear. then isolating it from the cockpit. making the now empty engine bay into your trunk. and converting the cables and pedals to control the tranny. t thats a tricky one im hoping you can get away with longer shift cables. then a new exhuast system. for me some day I hope this will become a reality hopefully ill get the car im going to do it with in the summer. Really all you need is imagination and guts. so dont let any one put you down on your dreams. its my dream to for once not get beat off the line by MR2s hate it.

 

[project94tsi]

I dont get why this is posted in the tuning section and not the drivetrain section?

 

[TERBOLASER]

good point

 

[TurboTalon11]

Thanks I'll look up what Buschur racing says about it. And I'm sorry to "offend" the two last post above mines. :laugh:

 

[twisted69]

ok i just read an artical in super street about a wrx that was converted into a rwd. it said that they replaced the center dif for a solid one. does anyone know if this is possible?

 

[twisted69]

i mean if it is possible to do this on a mitsu?

 

[leet]

Sure, it's possible. No, it's not feasible. Or practical.

 

[Defiant]

Practially, no. But it has been done. It's also been discussed many times before on this board. Hint, hint.

 

[TsiArt01]

Here is an idea... how much would all of you wanabe drifters would pay for such center diff?

does anyone know of a place that sells a center diff that sends power to Rear wheels only?

There is one , It's not exacly rear wheels only , but it's 65% of the power to them .

The compant is COSCO and the diff is called Tarmack Diff. for EVO 1,2,3.
Since our tranny has the same center diff as EVO's It will fit . But do you see your self Spending $1500 For it ?

When I found it on a Japanise text page , I got wood . I wanted it so bad , untill I found one place that was a dealer for COSCO and I lost Intrest in it when I heard ( read in the e-mail ) the price .

P.S anyone close to Connecticut ? trying to find more fans of the DSM's

Yeah I'm from CT . There is a CCDSM club forum page . The link is www.ccdsm.net ( if you don't know about it already ).

 

[thescamp]

RWD conversion is EASY.
First, take apart your tranny. Remove the center differential, and take out all of the spider gears. This eliminates the power transfer to the front differential. Then, get a viscous coupler eliminator, or weld the shafts together if you're cheap. This puts all of the power to the rear wheels. Wouldnt recomment this, but thats the way my eclipse is set up right now... out of neccecity, my drift car is an 84 celasupra. This puts ALOT of stress on the xfer case, and all of the trans internals. Its not set up for that kind of abuse! i'd reccomend just buying an old supra. you can get em for like 300-500 bucks. and theyre alot of fun!

 

[gimmie11s]

morphius-

you mentioned in another thread that your brother (or maybe a friend, i forget) is going to convert his dsm to rwd via the 4g63 and a t350 auto trans. this is similar to what i am going to do. has he figured out the flexplate/torque converter issue yet? That is the ONLY part of the project that has me hung up, as i dont want to spent 1100 on a buschur custom t/c and another 500 on a custom flywheel/flexplate.

thanks

-dom

 

[Morphius]

Originally posted by gimmie11s
you mentioned in another thread that your brother (or maybe a friend, i forget) is going to convert his dsm to rwd via the 4g63 and a t350 auto trans. this is similar to what i am going to do. has he figured out the flexplate/torque converter issue yet? That is the ONLY part of the project that has me hung up, as i dont want to spent 1100 on a buschur custom t/c and another 500 on a custom flywheel/flexplate.

Yes. But we have not gotten any parts fabbed up. It involves using a stock GM flexplate and torque convertor. An adapter similiar to a wheel adapter is used with the 4G63 bolt pattern and the GM V8 bolt pattern in it to bolt the GM flexplate the Mit's crank. The key is the correct thickness crank adapter and block-to-trans adapter so that you end up with the torque convertor in the correct position for proper pump engagement.

 

[gimmie11s]

where would the starter mount? On GM applications the starter mounts to the engine block. i suppose we would have to fab up a bracket and mount it somewhere near the engine using a GM starter if one was to use the GM flexplate as you described.

-d

 

[Morphius]

i suppose we would have to fab up a bracket and mount it somewhere near the engine using a GM starter if one was to use the GM flexplate as you described.

Correct. The mount would be attached to the block/trans adapter.

 

[gimmie11s]

morphius-

definitely keep me informed once you guys begin fabbing up parts. A pre-smog 4g63 powered drag/street car with a t350 putting the power down will be the end all be all for me....

 

[alienauto]

I was ust wondering if there is a rear wheel drive tranny that will bolt up to a 4g63. I am thinking of a new project.

 

[1fast97gsx]

I was ust wondering if there is a rear wheel drive tranny that will bolt up to a 4g63. I am thinking of a new project.

Sure .. if you flip the motor 90 degrees ....

 

[pr0_re]

i belive that the old mighty max pickup trans will fit. in mischif there was a guy that swaped a 4g63 into a 4wd pickup w/ a slectable transfer casesojust find one of those and check it out

 

[sphillips91]

Man Id love a RWD turbo dsm. The 240 with sr20 turbo motor I road in was sweet. Why they didnt make these ####ers RWD is beyond me.

 

[Turningturbo25]

Man Id love a RWD turbo dsm. The 240 with sr20 turbo motor I road in was sweet. Why they didnt make these ####ers RWD is beyond me.

cause AWD 60" traps BORK RWD ones (Bork=owns, i will post a picture of a bork when i get home so you can understand)

 

[oldmopwater]

i belive that the old mighty max pickup trans will fit. in mischif there was a guy that swaped a 4g63 into a 4wd pickup w/ a slectable transfer casesojust find one of those and check it out

It will work there is a a team in va that did that but they ended up using the whole mighty max powertrain (4g64 and tranny) in their 2g.

 

[leet]

cause AWD 60" traps BORK RWD ones (Bork=owns, i will post a picture of a bork when i get home so you can understand)

Hmm, tell that to Buschur.