Apexi SAFC 1

[Usatuff]

A friend of mine has one laying around and said I could have it for $20. Good deal? Also does anyone know the pin out or where I can get a wiring diagram for the pins or just a harness?

 

[jrdrew5]

U can try there website they have instruxtions online on most of there products.

DSM!

 

[Blue Talon Boy]

Good deal. Make sure to get the harness too!!

Pinout can be found here:

Apexi-USA - Support

Make sure you select if you have an AFC1 or AFC2.

 

[Blue Talon Boy]

This is a great deal. The new AFC's from Apex'i are over $400. If he has the complete thing (in car box and harness) grab it. The AFC 1 maybe outdated but it still can be a formidable tuning system and beats DSMLink and ECU+ by hundreds of dollars!!

 

[Usatuff]

It's a SAFC 1 I believe . It has no harness, that's why I was looking for a pin out on the module itself. It looks like this but without the harness

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[Blue Talon Boy]

It's a SAFC 1 I believe . It has no harness, that's why I was looking for a pin out on the module itself. It looks like this but without the harness

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That looks alot different then the one I have. Im going to do some more research into this one...

 

[JusMX141]

Can't say I've ever seen one that looks similar to what you've posted. The oldest AFC I'm familiar with looks like:

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[Blue Talon Boy]

From what I have found this AFC is not for a DSM. They seem to be more for a 91 GTO, 91-94 Diamante, and 95+ Diamante, all of which use the 6G72 engine. I don't think they will work with a DSM. I have yet to find any info about installing it in one anyway.

Can't say I've ever seen one that looks similar to what you've posted. The oldest AFC I'm familiar with looks like:

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Thats what I have in my Talon. The research that I did revealed the SAFC he is looking at is even older then the one we are using.

 

[Usatuff]

So now the question is will it work? or no?

 

[Blue Talon Boy]

So now the question is will it work? or no?

I don't think so but someone may know better then me.

 

[Usatuff]

Sorry if it's a "noob" question but why wouldn't it work? I mean I don't think they are car secific but I know some are

 

[ceristeare]

the one in the pics is the one i have its badass. 20 bucks its worth a try anyway the ecu is pretty versatile and can adjust

 

[Usatuff]

I've been looking and it said they were called Apexi Super AFC 5 Knob. As seen here FC3S Pro v2.0:  Mods - A'PEXi AFC series I saw a few forums on how to install them into 3000gt and a subbie. Hopefully this willl work and I'm gonna give it a shot. But I'm still looking for a pinout on this because it does not come with a harness. Called Apexi and they can't find anything.

 

[4G63_Attack]

It should work, it the old AFC with out the Super on it.... some of the older dsm guys used to use it back in the day.

 

[Usatuff]

Does anyone have this model installed in their car? Or know of anyone with this installed? I just need a quick snap of what the wire looks like plugged into the back so I can figure out what wire is what pin

OK, I have found a pin out and was now wondering which wires on the ECU do I connect to? does it matter if Air flow input 1 & 2 are backwards?

 

[bmwtuning]

For 20 ill grab it and do some research.

 

[Usatuff]

I'm picking it up tomorrow along with a A/F gauge he's given me. What wires go where on the ECU? Airflow Input 1, Airflow Input 2, Airflow Outlet, RPM Signal, IG Power, and Airflow Ground? Which wires are which on the ECU?

 

[asrdave]

that is the old school turn knob afc it still works well a buddy of mine made 255 on a dyno dynamics with an afc like that with a 16g and a stock 6 bolt long block

 

[Usatuff]

I'm not trying to make this in to a mean machine yet, just a few little upgrades when I get them

 

[Usatuff]

Ok, so now I have it here layin on the table. I got the gauge ready for install and I made a 3 gauge holder for under the radio, I'll take pics after school today. Can anyone give me a hand with the wiring? I looked at a ECU diagram for a 93 1G Tsi and I can't find what I need? It DOES say in the Apexi wiring diagram that this can be used in an Eclipse, with the same motor. But I looked through someones diagram and can't find what I need. What wires do I use for RPM signal, Airflow Input, Airflow Outlet, and Airflow ground. I know which is for IG Power and I was told I can just ground the ground for the Airflow ground anywhere. Can I ground it anywhere? Any info is appreciated!

 

[TalonEsi_96]

I just bought one today for my 98 gst with the 5 knob for 20 bucks from a friend who has a 240sx
anyone know where to get the harness at??

 

[Usatuff]

I just bought one today for my 98 gst with the 5 knob for 20 bucks from a friend who has a 240sx
anyone know where to get the harness at??

I couldn't find a harness for it so i just made one.... You can either bring the box with you to RadioShack and compare it to what they have or you can get small female quick disconnects and just install it like that. Let me know if ya need help I got the pin out for the box

 

[vash_1010]

Just in case anyone still needed help.

For dsm 4g63 90-95 rear switch plate on the back are as follows

U=up
D=down

D D U U U D U D

If anyone is still using old school tech.

 

[Junfan]

Brown closest to ECU on pin 106 Black (Ground)
Black over 1CM away from Brown on pin 106 Black (Ground)
Red on pin 107 Red (Power)
Green on pin 109 White (Ignition Pulse Detection)
Grey on pin 19 Green/White stripe (Throttle Position Sensor)
Purple on pin 9 White (Detonation Sensor)
Orange Input from pin 10 Green/Black stripe (Airflow Sensor In)
Pink Output to pin 10 Green/Black stripe (Airflow Sensor out)

Here is the link to VFAQ. Know it, study it, love it!

http://www.vfaq.com/mods/ecu-harness-1G.html

Now in color.
http://www.dsmtalk.com/gallery/data/500/Drawing2_Model_1_.jpg