Aeromotive A1000 EFI Fuel System

[syrushcw]

Does anyone have this system? If they do, do you like it? Is it better then piecing together your own system?

 

[kambonate]

i have it on my dodge stealth.. i love it.. kind of loud and annoying to others, but its definately music to me ears.. they dont make a kit i dont think for the dsm or my car. i pretty much had to piece it together.. not too much a big deal.. i can get you everything you need if you want ...

 

[syrushcw]

I'm guessing your talking about the pump itself? SBR and Extreme PSI have a kit I guess its a universal kit that goes up to the Fuel Rail.
EXTREME PSI : Your #1 Source for In Stock Performance Parts - Aeromotive A1000 EFI Fuel System

 

[ali_viento]

i have the complete Aeromotive EFI 1000 kit that i built it , its included : Aeromotive A1000 Fuel Pump , Aeromotive A1000 Regulator , Aeromotive 100 micron fuel filter , Aeromotive Fuel Pump controller , All barided line -10AN with fittings , Custom Surger Tank , Custom fuel rail ( 2 feed , 1 return from center ) , 880 cc precision injectors .
there is some pics from my fuel system , if you have any other question feel free to ask , my email address is : [email protected] , i really glad to help you sir .

http://i38.tinypic.com/2gua1k0.jpg
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http://i37.tinypic.com/6fmgwo.jpg
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good luck.

 

[ali_viento]

I really love my Fuel system , like on the pic my surger tank straight before A1000 fuel pump , plus my Walbro 255 in the tank feed surger tank .
i draw the pic that you can see clearly .

http://i37.tinypic.com/2yo8wv5.jpg

regards
Ali

 

[syrushcw]

Your running a Fp3065 and only 880cc injectors? That fuel setup looks pimp, The fuel rail with center feed looks just awesome.

 

[99gst_racer]

The fuel rail with center feed looks just awesome.

The center fitting is the return/exit, not the feed.


I'm curious though; what are the benefits of utilizing a surge tank?

 

[fatherbubble]

i have the complete Aeromotive EFI 1000 kit that i built it , its included : Aeromotive A1000 Fuel Pump , Aeromotive A1000 Regulator , Aeromotive 100 micron fuel filter , Aeromotive Fuel Pump controller , All barided line -10AN with fittings , Custom Surger Tank , Custom fuel rail ( 2 feed , 1 return from center ) , 880 cc precision injectors .
there is some pics from my fuel system , if you have any other question feel free to ask , my email address is : [email protected] , i really glad to help you sir .

http://i38.tinypic.com/2gua1k0.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/im8r5s.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/281d0k7.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/2qtl55c.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/aopc2h.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/2hxw1k.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/6fmgwo.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/29g2vl.jpg

good luck.

Why are you using a 100 micron filter? Turbo cars are suppose to have the 10 or lower filter size. All other vehicals use the 100 an so on. The bigger the number the smaller the passage way is. All due to the fact that the screen is smaller. Whith the bigger number.

 

[ali_viento]

Your running a Fp3065 and only 880cc injectors? That fuel setup looks pimp, The fuel rail with center feed looks just awesome.

precision 880cc use an OBD1 style clip, and each injector will support approximatly 151 hp per cylinder, for a total of 600 flywheel horsepower. All horsepower ratings are based upon a 90% duty cycle at 43.5 psi of fuel pressure based upon a BSFC of .50. Compatible with all known aftermarket drivers.
i dont think that i need more than this power for my street race car .
plus the fuel rail center is return , with 2 feeds .

 

[ali_viento]

The center fitting is the return/exit, not the feed.


I'm curious though; what are the benefits of utilizing a surge tank?

custom made surge tank to prevent the fuel from moving away from the fuel pump pick up during hard lauches or sharp curves and your fuel pump always have fuel behind it .
plus if you just read the instruction of A1000 fuel pump , the aeromotive co adviced : If you are using the stock fuel tank , install a reservoir style sump in the bottom-rear of your fuel tank . exercise extreme cation and follow all manufacture's recommendations when installing reservoir style sump ( surge tank )
if you choose not to install reservoir style sump , then you MUST install an high flow capacity fuel tank pickup(installing a high flow pickup instead of reservoir style sump may shorten the fuel pump life and cause driveability problems . when using pickup, you should maintain at least 1/2 tank of fuel in the vehicle at all times to avoid possible engine or fuel pump damage ) "

 

[ali_viento]

Why are you using a 100 micron filter? Turbo cars are suppose to have the 10 or lower filter size. All other vehicals use the 100 an so on. The bigger the number the smaller the passage way is. All due to the fact that the screen is smaller. Whith the bigger number.

IF you read the aeromotive A1000 instruction at the first page you can see " A high capacity ,100 micron fuel filter must be installed between the fuel tank and pump inlet . we recommended an aeromotive 12304 filer ( like mine )

My wallbro inlet fuel pump feed the surger tank ( after surger tank i have OEM fuel filter ) , it means that i always have fuel on surger tank and my surger tank hook straigh to A1000 fuel pump ( pump is lower than surger tank ) .

if you have any other questions please feel free to ask me.
thank you everybody

 

[syrushcw]

Why do you put the FPR on the return line?

 

[ali_viento]

Why do you put the FPR on the return line?

The installation of aeromotive fuel pressure regulator allows for the adjustment of fuel pressure to suit larger injectors and other engine modifications. They are also necessary to regulate and flow increased volumes of fuel pumped by high flow aeromotive fuel pumps.
Fuel pressure regulator, which works with the fuel pump to maintain a steady pressure relationship between the fuel line side of the injectors and the intake manifold.
Ideally a fuel pressure regulator will provide a constant pressure differential across the injectors. Base pressure has been defined as the difference between the fuel rail pressure and the manifold pressure. This is the actual pressure across the injector that affects the amount of fuel flowing through the injector when it is open .
The base pressure is typically tuned at idle when the most fuel is being returned.
If large pumps (or high volumes of fuel – eg alcohol based) are used this can mean the regulator is causing a restriction in flow at idle.
This means that when the regulator is being tuned there is an increase is pressure due to the restriction in flow. This is caused by the regulator having to return too much fuel for its design. In effect the base pressure in then being set with a combination of spring pressure and pressure build up due to the flow.
At higher load & rpm there is less fuel being returned through the regulator and the pressure increase due to the restriction in flow will be removed (as the regulator is designed to flow this flow rate) causing a drop in base pressure under these conditions.
This drop is because without the restriction due to too much flow the regulator is only using spring pressure to regulate.
plus you can see the chart of EFI system on this pic , there is just some hoses high pressure , from External fuel pump to injectors ( that i have 2 feeds for equal injecting ) .
Then the fuel pressure regulator regular fuel pressure and you dont need high pressure hoses with AN fittings but i already use all braided lines and AN fittings for sure .

EFI Fuel Chart

thank you for your question , feel free to ask any questions from me .

 

[99gst_racer]

Why do you put the FPR on the return line?

That's how all DSMs are. The regulator is always on the exit side of the fuel rail.

 

[Slippi84]

Do you run a return back to the surge tank or all the way back to the tank? I'm gonna be running a sx1000(just like a a1000) on my setup and I'm using all -8an as I think -10 is just rediculous. The -8an next to stock stuff makes it look like floss. Where do you guys think is a better place to filter the fuel at before or after the pump I was thinking before to prolong the life of the pump but that leaves a lot of line left for stuff to get clogged and dirty

 

[gixrman]

Aeromotive Fuel Pump controller.

How did you wire this up? and whats your opinion of it? Been thinking about it when I add a second pump.

 

[Slippi84]

What's the main purpose of those controllers I was thinking about getting one for my sx1000 but the only thing I seem to hear about them is they make your pump quieter.

 

[gixrman]

What's the main purpose of those controllers I was thinking about getting one for my sx1000 but the only thing I seem to hear about them is they make your pump quieter.

This is what I pulled off there site:
For any pump, on any type of vehicle, the Aeromotive Fuel Pump Speed Controller (FPSC) minimizes hot fuel handling problems for in-line pumps in bypass systems and it will also keep T-style pumps cool in static systems, extending fuel pump life. Sensing engine RPM, the FPSC kicks your fuel flow into high gear when you need it, but reduces pump speed and flow to keep things cool when you don't. It's like an automatic transmission for your electric fuel pump.

When you're cruising, Aeromotive’s Billet Fuel Pump Controller automatically steps voltage down to the Fuel Pump at lower RPM, then it continuously monitors engine speed, stepping voltage and flow back up when needed. The RPM step-point is adjustable, allowing calibration for your specific application.

 

[Slippi84]

This is what I pulled off there site:
For any pump, on any type of vehicle, the Aeromotive Fuel Pump Speed Controller (FPSC) minimizes hot fuel handling problems for in-line pumps in bypass systems and it will also keep T-style pumps cool in static systems, extending fuel pump life. Sensing engine RPM, the FPSC kicks your fuel flow into high gear when you need it, but reduces pump speed and flow to keep things cool when you don't. It's like an automatic transmission for your electric fuel pump.

When you're cruising, Aeromotive’s Billet Fuel Pump Controller automatically steps voltage down to the Fuel Pump at lower RPM, then it continuously monitors engine speed, stepping voltage and flow back up when needed. The RPM step-point is adjustable, allowing calibration for your specific application.

I figured it was something like that. I might pick one ofthose up just for insurance as I have heard many stories of heat soaking fuel with the a1000 pumps

 

[99gst_racer]

Do you run a return back to the surge tank or all the way back to the tank? I'm gonna be running a sx1000(just like a a1000) on my setup and I'm using all -8an as I think -10 is just rediculous. The -8an next to stock stuff makes it look like floss. Where do you guys think is a better place to filter the fuel at before or after the pump I was thinking before to prolong the life of the pump but that leaves a lot of line left for stuff to get clogged and dirty

Both. Use a coarse filter before the pump, and then a fine filter before the injectors.

 

[Slippi84]

Both. Use a coarse filter before the pump, and then a fine filter before the injectors.

Yeah I was thinking about running it like that. Forget that pump regulator idea they're like 317 bucs I bought my fuel system for like 375

 

[99gst_racer]

Yeah I was thinking about running it like that. Forget that pump regulator idea they're like 317 bucs I bought my fuel system for like 375

Yeah, the pump controller is expensive, but in my opinion, it's a must if you run your A1000 for periods of time exceeding 30 minutes.

It's also my opinion that for a street car, there are better options than the A1000.

 

[Slippi84]

Yeah, the pump controller is expensive, but in my opinion, it's a must if you run your A1000 for periods of time exceeding 30 minutes.

It's also my opinion that for a street car, there are better options than the A1000.

I have a sx1000 already and I agree there may be better options but this isn't a street car. I do however plan on running the car for longer than 30 minutes every once in a while like for cruises and what not. It's being built for the 1320 though. The thing about the a1000 is you don't need a internal pump and can run it with just a cell which is what I plan on doing.

 

[snowborder714]

Do you run a return back to the surge tank or all the way back to the tank?

You can do it either way. Here's a link for a surge tank thread in the road racing forum:
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/roa...-ideal-design-dsm-surge-tank-road-racing.html

 

[Slippi84]

You can do it either way. Here's a link for a surge tank thread in the road racing forum:
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/roa...-ideal-design-dsm-surge-tank-road-racing.html

I was just curious but either way I'm building a drag car not a road racing car. I think that it's a good idea but a but overkill for the average guy. I think a 10gallon cell with -8 feed and -8 return with sx1000 pump with 10 micron and 100 micron inline filter and aeromotive afpr should be just fine for whatever I can throw at it. I may try and see if I can get my hands on that billet pump regulator used or in a cheaper brand cause 317 is just crazy to me but we'll see.