a/f ratio or wideband?

[tkhaab_94]

I'm new to tuning. I was told that I needed a wideband to help with tuning my car. Right now I have the a/f ratio gauge. So Do I have to take that off and replace it with a Wideband? Or can I keep both? Where do I put the o2 sensor at for the wideband?

 

[JuGs]

A/F ratio and wide band are one and the same for say. A/F (narrowband) isnt really acurate at all. A wideband will give you more accurate measurments

 

[gstryyder]

you need a wideband to get an accurate reading.

 

[92AWDHX40]

Wideband all the way.

 

[tkhaab_94]

Ok. So where can I put the O2 sensor?

 

[DSMDriver69]

get a wideband narrow sucks balls

 

[92AWDHX40]

In the downpipe a search will help you also.

 

[2gGSXEclipse]

Id say try to put it 1-3 feet away from the turbo outlet, or as close as you can.

 

[Zakharris]

Ok. So where can I put the O2 sensor?

You can try Drillin it into your headers, thats what i did, works good.

 

[helluvadsm]

A wide band, and an EGT gauge will give you the greatest tunablility.
The wideband o2 sensor usually goes in the downpipe, midstream.
The hole has to be made and then you have to weld a bung/nut to be able to screw it in.

 

[1stGenTSi]

You can try Drillin it into your headers, thats what i did, works good.

I didn't know our cars had headers. And if they did I don't think you'd want the sensor before the turbo. Place 36'' downstream of turbo per the installation guide, usually after the flex section in the downpipe is a good spot. You'll have the get the bung that comes with it welded up.

 

[gstryyder]

i would put a wideband/o2 bung about 18-36 inches from where your downpipe to turbo flange is...i usually do it a little before the flex section. keep your o2 sensor...

 

[tkhaab_94]

Okay, so how will I go about it with smog? Take off my downpipe and leave the sensor hanging there? I'm running catless. So I will have to put my stock exhaust back on.

 

[helluvadsm]

Unplug it from the harness, pretty much until you replace it back.

 

[EclipticalGS]

yeah the sensor side of the wiring is like 14" long. So all you have to do is unclip the sensor from the rest of the wideband cable...

I used a stepping bit till the 02 bung could be pounded in, took it to a guy i know who welds, Then ran my wire and sensor from the Downpipe, back and underneath the Drivers side well of the car (where your feet sit) theres a rubber gromet that can be popped out. I modified it a little more for snow and rain protection but still....36" away from turbo oulet

 

[tkhaab_94]

Which Wideband is good? They are expensive. I wonder if the ebay ones are just as good as the AEM one.

 

[LiquidX]

Go with the Innovate LC-1 wideband. The gauge is optional. If you ever run ECMLink, you can moniter it through there. It also comes with a CD to moniter it on a computer as well.

I have the DB gauge with mine and looks nice on the pictures. Still need to install mine when I get my car done.

 

[Neezer]

Hi, sorry for sort of bumping this but it's related. I am only really looking at 300-350 hp in the future for this car, and I was wondering if it would be worth spending the extra money on a wideband.

In my viewpoint, (idk why), a wideband is only for cars with higher horsepower and need the real accuracy. And the A/F narrowband would suffice for the hp goals that I have. Because that glowshift guage/pod deal is really tempting at the moment. Thanks for any input!

 

[LiquidX]

As stated, narrowband is just a light show. If you tune at all, you want a wideband so you know how rich or lean your tune is. I got my whole kit on ebay for $180 new in the box. Don't half ass it.

 

[Neezer]

Thanks, ya I figured do it right or not at all. The narrrowbands I was looking at weren't the light show ones, I was thinking at least the needle ones. I just don't like the fact the widebands are so expensive haha

 

[7"exhaust_tip]

If you find that a wideband is too expensive, which helps guarantee the life and safety of your motor, you need to find a different hobby...

I liked the jokes about drilling the wideband into the "headers". That made me chuckle a bit. Thanks.

 

[jlr2196]

I really don't know why people keep saying to put the O2 sensor in all these various locations other than the stock location..Seems like a no brainer to me, I've been running my wbo2 in the stock o2 housing location for awhile with no issues as well as many others, actually the recommended spot by ecmlink too.

If you go with the Innovate LC-1 you can keep your aftermarket narrowband gauge for your "cool" effect since it has two programmable outputs. Innovate wbo2 are the only way to go especially for closed loop operation, their one of few that target 2.5v for stoich.

 

[Neezer]

Anyone have any experience with the Glowshift Wideband?

 

[91stocker]

Ive seen some w/b's having compatibility issues with different tuning equipment. Ive never heard of the lc-1 having any issues at all. Pay the extra $20 and get a nice one. Its basically the first mod that you should buy for your ride.

 

[7"exhaust_tip]

I really don't know why people keep saying to put the O2 sensor in all these various locations other than the stock location..Seems like a no brainer to me, I've been running my wbo2 in the stock o2 housing location for awhile with no issues as well as many others, actually the recommended spot by ecmlink too.

If you go with the Innovate LC-1 you can keep your aftermarket narrowband gauge for your "cool" effect since it has two programmable outputs. Innovate wbo2 are the only way to go especially for closed loop operation, their one of few that target 2.5v for stoich.

Maybe because the maker of the product says so.......


Lets see...wideband sensor accuracy and life....no wait...neither of those are important. Maybe I should just move my wideband into my intake manifold.

Damn newbie forum is a plague.