95 eagle talon tsi motor swap into 97 gst spyder

[uncletoucan]

Hey guys this is my first post i am having some issues ive had my 97 gst spyder for about 4 years now and i just recently blew the motor i have aquired a 95 eagle talon tsi fwd and have both cars in a shop awaiting a swap but the problem is they say the motors are different and i just need another opinion on what i should do i just thought the motors were the same any help would be greatly appreciated

 

[TurboATM]

hmm...sounds like either one of your cars isnt really factory turbo (which im sure you would know) or your shop of choice needs to be changed. Even if the motor in the TSi was a 6 bolt, its already installed in a 2g-it would be a simple swap, just pull out both motors, install, and enjoy!

 

[uncletoucan]

thanks for the response i think it sounds like they dont know what they are doing so ill take the cars elsewhere

 

[jrohner]

The only difference is the cam sensor. On the 97 it's on the passenger side of the head off the intake cam like a 1G, and on a 95 it's behind the intake cam gear. Just put the cam sensor from the 97 on the 95 engine, and you're good to go.

 

[uncletoucan]

yeah i noticed the cam sensors and thats why these mechanics wont mess with it i should just gor swap the cam sensors and let them do the rest

 

[uncletoucan]

they say the 95 doesnt have a cam sensor are you sure it would be that easy

 

[combatmedic]

I have a 95 gst and there is a cam sensor right under the intake cam gear.

 

[Detective Coating]

Just have them swap the motors if you aren't mechanically inclined to do so and have them hook everything else up and do the wiring yourself.

 

[CHAR-FT]

Search man, you just have to re-wire the cam angle sensor from your current one "behind the cam gears" to the passenger side of the head and solder in the connector for the 97-99 CAS plug.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/340349-cam-angle-sensor-question-95-engine-97-a.html

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/351398-1995-gsx-cam-angle-sensor-question.html

or you can do this.

RRE Instructions

 

[uncletoucan]

ive wired everything up and sometimes the motor runs and sometimes it doesnt i have the red black and yellow wires hooked up but there is no cam sensor plug so i have no idea where to plug the white wire into i am running the 95 ecu thats the only way it would run so im stuck any help would be greatly appreciated

 

[uncletoucan]

Bump please someone help me.

 

[19Eclipse90]

All you had to do was swap the '95 engine into your '97 GST Spyder and retain the CAS (and, for ease of the swap, the intake cam) from your '97 engine. Everything else would have remained the same. Even if you didn't have the intake cam or it was damaged, you could have drilled and tapped the end of the '95 cam to accept the '97+ CAS.

It sounds like you severely over complicated this. You have a '97 GST Spyder and a '95 ECU which will expect an inverted CAS signal (see page 8 of the article linked immediately below or swap the plug wires to handle that issue). If you are trying to use a 1G CAS, the white wire goes to the blue w/ red wire (see page 7 of this write-up: http://magnusmotorsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/1gina2g.pdf) on the cam sensor plug. In your '97, the cam sensor plug will be by the throttle body: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/151528370-post11.html.

Edit: And this thread just popped up, I assume it is pretty similar to what you are doing. http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/365827-1g-cas-wiring-2g-cant-locate-cam-sensor-plug.html