73 dollar brand new HKS ssqv? What do I need?

[dzolcali]

first off is this authentic or a knock off...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...d=1,1&item=8035191830&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT
second, if it is a knock off would it still be ok to buy one?
Third, what all do I need to install it and what cost will that run me?

HKS webpage qoutes like 355$ for all tubes,connectors/flanges for the BOV
and then another 235 for the actual bov...to me thats just ridiculous money to make a swoosh sound.

Anyways, if anyone can answer me these questions I would appreciate it much!

 

[turbodsm18]

An HKS BOV for that cheap. It definately looks like its a knock off. There is other BOV's out there that are just as good. Tial makes a pretty good sound and I run a greddy type-s on my GS-T and it works just fine.

 

[TURB0]

Im not a pro at spotting dupes, but it looks fishy to me. Secondly, I don't think you can re-circulate the SSQV, so you would need to go to a MAFT or some other form that allows a blow-thru setup. Because if your going to vent it without having proper tuning and equipment, you car will run pretty crappy. I would recommend searching such topics as venting to get a better feel if a BOV is the first mod you really want.

 

[RedTurboEclipse]

yea thats definitely a knockoff.. however people have used it before and found no problems with it.. even comparing it to an actual "authentic" hks bov.. surely exploit how cheap it is to make it.. and how much profit they make

anyways do a search and you should see actual responses from owners..

also they CAN be recirculated.. just purchase the recirculating fitting/kit and you should be all set to go..

 

[chicagoavenger]

yea thats definitely a knockoff.. however people have used it before and found no problems with it.. even comparing it to an actual "authentic" hks bov.. surely exploit how cheap it is to make it.. and how much profit they make

anyways do a search and you should see actual responses from owners..

also they CAN be recirculated.. just purchase the recirculating fitting/kit and you should be all set to go..

+1 I have a knockoff Greddy Type RS and it works just fine. These companies are just overcharging for parts. It all come from the same place your just paying for the name when you buy the "real" thing

 

[Stapl3]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HKS-...cmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQitemZ8035332287

59.00 and 9 shipping. Cheapest on eBay.

 

[nicknorth11]

notice the pic of the inside of the bov, it says "blow off valve". real ones say "sequential blow off valve".

p.s.~chicagoavenger, i assure you they are not all the same. i can't speak for greddy, but i know for a fact that the knockoff ssqv's are not push/pull.

 

[dzolcali]

how do you know for a fact?

 

[nicknorth11]

ask one of the people/companies selling one, like i have.

 

[turbodsm18]

I beleive that ebay counterfeits are not the same. There was an article explaining all of this in Modified Magazine (December 2005 issue). You should look into this before you buy.

 

[JiveMasterT]

that definately is a knock off.... thats not nessicarily a bad thing though. People have been using the monza version of that thing on their porsche's for some time. i figure if it's good enough for a porsche, it's good enough for a dsm. with that you will still need an adapter for the stock bov tube and a recirculation kit unless you are running a maf w/ blowthru.

 

[pinder91]

Yeah. Definitely a knockoff. I got my SSQV from edoperformance for around $180. They can be recirculated, but you need the special fitting. Like stated above, you will need an adapter for the stock tube unless you go aftermarket.
A friend of mine is running the Monza knockoff on his Mazdaspeed Protege and it seems to work just fine. It sounds close to an SSQV, but not quite.

 

[nicknorth11]

that definately is a knock off.... thats not nessicarily a bad thing though. People have been using the monza version of that thing on their porsche's for some time. i figure if it's good enough for a porsche, it's good enough for a dsm.

the knockoffs only hold (from what i have read on this website, posted by a wiseman, i forgot which one), around 22 psi. so yes, they work, but not as high of psi as a real ssqv and not with the same quickness, which is accomplished via the small/large valves.

 

[pinder91]

Good information. However, if you're not going to be running that much boost, and the BOV woks, then for $73 its not a bad deal.

 

[nicknorth11]

true story!

 

[Fwd650HP]

Copied from the their ebay ad:

Brand New High Quality Product.
JDM HKS Turbo SSQV Blow off Valve Style.(Dual Stage pull-Type Relief Valve).
Protect your turbo by releasing pressure surges when changing/shifting gears or backing off throttle quickly .
Perfect for almost ANY turbo'd application.

The word STYLE should raise an eyebrow or two.

 

[RedTurboEclipse]

they say style so their auction doesnt get pulled and hks doesn't sue them..

if you do a search, you will see posts from actual happy owners who are using these knockoffs.. 20+psi

i wouldnt mind using this or the greddy knockoff.. ive opened these up and this would be a cake for those who have the resources to reverse engineer and knockoff.. it's not too complicated..

if they ever make a greddy type r knockoff id get one

 

[nicknorth11]

yesterday i emailed a company on ebay selling these ssqv knockoffs, i just got this response in my email:

my email to them:

Item: HKS SSQV BLOW OFF VALVE STYLE BOV TURBO UNIVERSAL (8037264533)
This message was sent while the listing was active.
nicknorth11 is a potential buyer.


is this a push/pull bov, like the actual hks ssqv? or is it a simple push style? thank you.


their response:

Dear Nick,
If I understand you correctly, it is an push one.


there you have it. from the "horses mouth". it seems like we all agree it will work for lower boost applications. this doesn't mean it's just as good or the same quality and it is now proven to be a different design.

 

[JiveMasterT]

I'd look at getting a genuine SSQV and then get your recirculation kit from ebay. The accesories are compatible and are much cheaper on ebay than they are from hks or a genuine hks part and they are identicle.

 

[turbodsm18]

Definately by the actual one and not the knock off.

 

[RedTurboEclipse]

this thread might answer some questions and doubts..

its about the greddy style bov.. but has some input on the hks ssqv style also..

http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200908&highlight=greddy+style+ebay

 

[daren_p]

One of the tuner mags recently had an article on the knock off parts, the hks ssqv was one of the parts. If I recall it was modified mag. They were going to review the knock off parts compared to the real ones. The article was a couple parts & I didn't end up gettin the follow up article, but when they mentioned this bov in the first article they said something that sounded to me like it was very poorly designed. Did anyone see the follow up & get the conclusion?

 

[Stapl3]

If a mag like the praised the knockoffs, they would probably lose tons of sponsor money.

 

[daren_p]

If a mag like the praised the knockoffs, they would probably lose tons of sponsor money.

That is true, but if I recall they didn't say this about every one of the knock off's. It was mainly the ssqv. I'll try & dig up the article if I still have the mag & see exactly what it said.

 

[Precision]

notice the pic of the inside of the bov, it says "blow off valve". real ones say "sequential blow off valve".

p.s.~chicagoavenger, i assure you they are not all the same. i can't speak for greddy, but i know for a fact that the knockoff ssqv's are not push/pull.

I'm looking at mine right now and he's right.