6 bolt in 2g, setting timing

[95 gsx]

How do we set our base timing on a 6 bolt installed in a 2g? I know 1g's have a plug on the firewall that can be grounded to the terminal on the battery to set timing but is there an implication somewhere on a 2g? When I looked at the firewall I saw two unused plugs, one was black the other was blue. Are these what Im supposed to use?

Also, has anyone had any luck setting up a greddy rs bov? For me it's either too loose or too tight. I saw somewhere that you could loosen the screw at idle until it flutters then tighten it 2 full turns. Anyone tried that with success?

-95 gsx

 

[TALONTRAX]

You need a logger or scanner & a timing light to set the timing. Start it up, let it warm up to operating temp.(1 cooling fan cycle). At idle & a/c. off, Hook up the timing light to the #1 wire, & aim the strobe at the crank pulley, & track the flasing mark on the pulley against the pointer. Compare the alignment of the timing mark in degrees to what the timing advance is indicated on the logger (if the timing light shows the mark at the +5 degree mark, & the scanner shows 12 degrees advance, you must advance the cas. until the light shows 12 degrees to match). This will bring you to stock timing. You can safely advance it +3 more degrees from there for a little more power & throttle response

 

[95 gsx]

You need a logger or scanner & a timing light to set the timing. Start it up, let it warm up to operating temp.(1 cooling fan cycle). At idle & a/c. off, Hook up the timing light to the #1 wire, & aim the strobe at the crank pulley, & track the flasing mark on the pulley against the pointer. Compare the alignment of the timing mark in degrees to what the timing advance is indicated on the logger (if the timing light shows the mark at the +5 degree mark, & the scanner shows 12 degrees advance, you must advance the cas. until the light shows 12 degrees to match). This will bring you to stock timing. You can safely advance it +3 more degrees from there for a little more power & throttle response

You explained it extremely well, thank you. I have a pocketlogger and a timing light so I should be set.

 

[TALONTRAX]

I don`t know too much about the greddy bov`s, however, I`d lean a little more towards the too tight side of adjustment, so it doesn`t leak & bleed off boost like our stock 2G units . . .

 

[95 gsx]

I was thinking about this the other day, if Im trying to match the reading on the pocketlogger to the reading from the timing light, wouldnt the reading on the pocketlogger change also if I advanced/retarded the cam sensor?

 

[TALONTRAX]

No it won`t, because the timing advance displayed on the logger is just advance from an assumed tdc signal from the fixed stock crank sensor.

 

[Ceddy]

What TALONTRAX said is incorrect on a 95. There is a brown round plug looking thing next to the blue and black plug. The brown plug has a waterproof cap, squeeze the tab and pull the top off. There is a metal and a plastic tab inside, ground the metal tab and the puts you in base timing mode like the 1g. 96+ are different.

Plus with the 6-bolt swap you only have a cam sensor, no crank sensor.

 

[TSG59_Steve]

What TALONTRAX said is incorrect on a 95. There is a brown round plug looking thing next to the blue and black plug. The brown plug has a waterproof cap, squeeze the tab and pull the top off. There is a metal and a plastic tab inside, ground the metal tab and the puts you in base timing mode like the 1g. 96+ are different.

Plus with the 6-bolt swap you only have a cam sensor, no crank sensor.

Ceddy is right. Talontrax isn't completely wrong though. And a logger isn't COMPLETELY necessary but it is handy.

 

[95 gsx]

How is it different for 96+? Im doing this on a 97 talon but I glanced at the firewall in my 95 but didnt see anything obvious except for the blue and black plugs. Ill check again more thoroughly the next time Ive got the hood up. Thanks fellas.

 

[TSG59_Steve]

I thought it was 97+ but I'm not sure. I do know the difference and it's that they don't have the brown ground wire. Just the blue and black.

 

[TALONTRAX]

That IS correct, sorry I forgot the early 2g`s had the grounding lead for the base settings . . .

 

[95 gsx]

Well, I got a better look at my 97 and there is no round brown plug as discussed earlier. Of the two plugs that are there, the black and blue, the black plug has a protective tip on it that can be removed. Is this the ground to set the car in timing mode perhaps?

 

[TALONTRAX]

In that case, I would just use the logger & timing light method. That`s the way I did it, & the timing is right on, low knock counts & pulls strong . . .

 

[95 gsx]

Ok, Ill give that a shot.

 

[TALONTRAX]

Post back when you get it set up . . . let us know how you made out -

 

[95 gsx]

Update-I got the car running but I had two problems: The timing light didnt work and I had to reset my pocketlogger and I lost my logging software. I couldnt think of anything else to do so I set the cam sensor until the engine idled smoothly. I took it for a drive and it seemed to run pretty good. A couple of days later I hotsync'd my palm, re-registered my software, and checked my timing and at around ~800 rpms, I have between 5-7 degrees of timing (pretty good for taking a guess, ). I logged a quick second gear pull and I got 22 degrees of advance by 6300. Is that a little high? Should I retard my timing a little?