50 trim vs. 20g

[northendtrooper]

my friend is going to trade he used PTE journal bearing 50 trim for a new 20g turbo.
i'm wondering if its worth the trade. doesn't the 50 trim offer better peformance than the 20g?

 

[dsm-onster]

Considering the compressor speeds neccesary, it likely won't last long. Since you can sell your 14b for decent money, I'd sell it and add the money to your upgrade.

 

[Dragon TalonTsi]

This is what boggles me. A good buddy of mine, had a MHI 20G TDO5H, and another buddy had a PTE 50 Trim, now, both pulled like a raped ape. The 20G though, it felt just like my Evo 3, except it pulled faster and harder. And then my buddies 50 Trim, just about knocked me out of my seat, but it was laggier. And for another one, a Stinky Pete turbo, the Sleeper 20G, another friend of mine, had that Sleeper turbo, and it spooled like my Evo 3, but pulled harder and faster, just like the 20G. Now, my buddy told me that it has been proven to flow just as much as a 20G, if not 5-10% more. How does that work? I personally, having experienced alot of different turbos and different setups, just research for yourself, and don't take no for an answer... Don't stop until you find what you are looking for...

 

[donmagicjuan]

I don't think anyone has the faintest clue what you were trying to say in that post. You might want to edit it so that you sound a tad less crazy. . .

 

[Xeiros]

Wow, I think everyone is overreacting to the context of his post just a bit. Maybe I just have uber good perception, or it's really not that hard.

Replace the "he" with "his" and you've got a structured sentence. Not the greatest grammar, but you can read it with relative ease if you read above a 3rd grade level.

 

[dsm-onster]

I guess I'm slow too. Im just not sure what he's saying exactly. . . I think donmagicjuan is referring to Dragon TalonTSI's last post. Research or not, flow can be predicted when one knows the components and their function. Of course, a first hand account of how a particular turbo performs is great. But considering the so very many other distinct mods that makes one setup so different from another, you have to look at other's experiences "with a grain of salt".

Dragon TalonTSI, a particular setup may "feel" stronger but only a dyno or at least an airflow log can tell. Case in point: my car "felt" really strong with my original spoungy springs and dead shocks. It squat so easily.

Also not all 20Gs are the same. The tdo6H 20G is head and shoulders above a td05H 20G. Jsut becasue they share the same compressor wheel doesn't mean tehy are anywhere near the same. An 05G 20g will spool like an evo3 16G w/ a bit more up top. An 06H 20G will be laggy, but it will have MUCH more up top then any evo3 16G could ever hope for. Much closer to a 50 trim. Just because a compressor can flow enough for a particular horsepower DOESNOT mean that the turbine can flow enough to support that horsepower effectively.

That 20% more flow is probably because the bastard 20g has the option of the td06H turbine. Again a wheel that is more matched to the compressor will help the compressor see its full potential.

 

[Xeiros]

^^ No, I thought he was yet another one to refer to the OP. If not, my apologies.

 

[donmagicjuan]

Sorry, I was in fact making reference to the post immediately above mine by Dragon Talon Tsi. He made my head hurt.