4g63 SOHC swap

[Judaspriest22]

so there is a there is a 4g63 SOHC (NOT THE DOHC!!) from a 1991 Galant on craigslist for 175$ with the works (ECU, Trans, etc) now i have the 1.8L 4g37 Eclipse which the trans is a direct bolt up to 4g63 (seen it done many times so don't give me crap)

its a 175$
100k miles
should i definetly go for it

4g63 SOHC Eclipse?


i do not plan on doing a dohc head swap.
is there anything i am missing??
unlike the 4g63 Dual cam, this uses a Dizzy.

 

[Lonewolf64]

I do not see any sense in doing that. If you want a performance motor project, just buy a turbo AWD DSM and go from there.

 

[brian9397gsx]

i ve never heard of this swap before. good luck your getting everything for cheap why not give it a try. make sure to do a build log id like to read about this.

 

[Judaspriest22]

ok people on this forum are bigger stuck up ass holes then ford mustang owners. have you maybe thought not every one wants to go big? im building a TIME ATTACK CAR! i want more then 300 absolute max!

fwd cars spank awd and rwd cars in AutoX all the time.
im doing 80% handling, and 20% power

if i wanted a awd dsm i would buy a awd dsm

 

[MichaelSuch]

You could do it, but I don't think you would gain much honestly. If it were me to do a swap like that, I would definately do DOHC instead of SOHC...

 

[mnr88talon]

ok people on this forum are bigger stuck up ass holes then ford mustang owners. have you maybe thought not every one wants to go big? im building a TIME ATTACK CAR! i want more then 300 absolute max!

fwd cars spank awd and rwd cars in AutoX all the time.
im doing 80% handling, and 20% power

if i wanted a awd dsm i would buy a awd dsm

wow that was a little defensive there

you asked us if you should go for it..

go for it

 

[Judaspriest22]

hmm.....

4g63 SC= 175$ for 43 hp (maybe more)

4g63 DC= 1400$ for 68hp.

not really worth a extra 1200$ for 20+ hp.

yanno what, #### dsm's they are just Chrysler made money holes.

im going back to my lovely honda that dont brake and die every 5 mins and can actually stand some abuse unlike DSM's

 

[oldman420]

hahaha have fun going slow.

 

[94_eclipse]

For 175 go for it.

you do know that this is a dsm site, not a honda site right? so if your going to bad mouth dsm's do it on a honda site

 

[Judaspriest22]

have fun jumping your timing and dealing with crank walk every couple hundred miles

i can go out and get a 200hp civic for about 1500$

i can go and turbo it (depending on the motor) for another 300$ and make about 400hp

you through in a ys1 cable trans with lsd for about another 300$

1g DSM weighs on average 2500lbs

typical civic hatch weighs 1900lbs.

take that add 400hp. that will smoke just about anything out there.

i spent a total of 1100$ (including buying the car) on my old 91 hatch and made 201hp no cold air, no aftermarket exhuast, just a good old head swap, plugs, and some tuning.

beat the shit out of it and never had it fail on me, not once.

 

[reardrv]

There would definitely be a noticeable performance gain, 4g37's are absolute dogs after all. However your still only talking a motor with 102hp over one with 90hp, it will still be a dog. Trust me you will be disappointed. Financially is it worth it, yes. However the kind of effort that would be involved would not be worth a 12hp gain. If your looking for cheap performance and have some fabricating skills a better option would be to boost the 1.8, with some bargain hunting and some creativity you could probably boost the car for under $300 and have a much larger performance gain for allot less effort. Shit my buddy boosted his mk3 Jetta with an ABA for under $200 (donations of parts and junk yard scrounging where heavily involved). I wouldn't even mess with the pain in the ass that a swap is unless its a 4g63 turbo. And I'm not trying to be an asshole here either, I'm just trying to help. Because trust me you will be disappointed after you do that swap.

 

[94_eclipse]

well crankwalk only typ. happens on turbo 7 bolts, and jumping the belt happens just about as often as another other car with a timing belt. I can tell you dont like dsm's so stick with your honda. There are better cars than dsms but we like our cars so dont put us down, im not puting you down. no need to be a smart a$$

 

[Judaspriest22]

i got a better idea.

take 100$ buy a Honda Civic Hatch EF shell

take 600$ drop in a B18A1 Non-Vtec with Ys1 LSD

take another 400$ and buy a b16a1 Vtec head

and slap it on the b18a1 block

do some quick tuning and boom! 200hp

 

[Judaspriest22]

i got a better idea.

take 100$ buy a Honda Civic Hatch EF shell

take 600$ drop in a B18A1 Non-Vtec with Ys1 LSD

take another 400$ and buy a b16a1 Vtec head

and slap it on the b18a1 block

do some quick tuning and boom! 200hp

if it was with a dsm it would be like...
buy a 2.0L 1g Dsm for 2000$, start with cold air. OH WAIT! it just jumped timing! spend 1600$ on a new 4g63t. go and slap a exhuast on it. oh no it through a rod, and had really bad crank walk!

see my point?

 

[oldman420]

Right on man, have fun with that. If you want to talk honda though you should probably take it to the hangout or a honda forum. But yes 175$ for that head is a steal, throw some maintenance at it and you got yourself a real deal.

 

[94_eclipse]

What ever man do what you want. its your money. Im just saying crank walk is rare on 7 bolts and never happens on 6 bolts. And the chance of jumping a timing belt is slim. As long as you replace it every 60,000 miles youll be fine.

 

[kottyking]

Crank walk every couple hundred miles? Are you high? You act like this happens to every dsm, then OVER and OVER again. Truth is, it RARELY happens. Just another FYI, the 4g37 has different coolant passages then does the 4g63. So, the head will not work. I would know, i tried to swap a 4g67 head (earlier elantras of a 1.8 DOHC similar to 4g63) and the passages didn't line up. Also take your crappy attitude else where, as most people here speak from experiance. We are not trying to offend you when they say buy a turbo dsm because in the long run IT IS CHEAPER.

 

[Judaspriest22]

never\rarely happens? i here people all the time talking about crank walk and that it ####ed them over.

kotty king, are you high!!

im talking about swaping a whole motor

in the 88-91 or whatever galants comes a 4g63 SINGLE CAM, meaning it stock is a 4g63 with a single head cam!

wow people do not know how to read

 

[94_eclipse]

Crank walk every couple hundred miles? Are you high? You act like this happens to every dsm, then OVER and OVER again. Truth is, it RARELY happens. Just another FYI, the 4g37 has different coolant passages then does the 4g63. So, the head will not work. I would know, i tried to swap a 4g67 head (earlier elantras of a 1.8 DOHC similar to 4g63) and the passages didn't line up. Also take your crappy attitude else where, as most people here speak from experiance. We are not trying to offend you when they say buy a turbo dsm because in the long run IT IS CHEAPER.

+1

 

[fastasseclips95]

Pretty sure my DSM came with all that horsepower at once didn't have to do anything for it. You asked for advice and thats what you recieved. IF you want to build a hatch build a hatch. Finding parts for a sohc motor will be a headache but finding them for the dohc with reviews from the people you are putting down on this site will be much easier then finding that hatch for only 100 washingtons. Good luck with your build

 

[ilco187]

honduz cute little matchbox cars.

 

[Judaspriest22]

long run my ass, the way i drive my car's a dsm would never hold up, i wouldnt want it for the long run, becuase id keep it until i finish rebuilding my b18a1 ls\vtec civic

im willing to take on any of your awd 4g63t cars with it, only mods ill have on my 200hp civic is cold air, exhuast, plugs, wires, and tuning....so it will probably be around 215-230hp, lets not forget if i decide to rebuild with rods, cams, pistons, and oil squirter kit, oh yeah, instead of cold air, maybe some itbs.

wed be lookin at about 400hp all motor (with itb's)

not a bad way to spend 3k

hell ill even put money on it.

 

[m_0ney_pit]

If you want to use the SOHC head then it will give you more torque than power if its turboed which might not be what you want for autox.

 

[reardrv]

Dude I don't get your problem, if you think 200hp is fine and your all about Honda's then go get a Honda, or a VW, or a spec v or some other car you can mod cheap up to the point where you can keep up with a stock V6 Camry and think your drive the fastest car in the world cause you can beat a V6 Mustang with a teenage girl driving, then not be able to do crap with it to make any real horse power cause the internals can't take it. I'm fairly new to DSM's but just like any other car, they only blow up when the owner is a complete moron. Keep up with maintenance, change your timing belt at 60k, and don't do stupid stuff to it (like a manual boost controller set at 20psi for a first mod) and you won have any issues till past 150k. And even then they should be minor. You want advice, if Hondas are so much better then sell your slow ass teenage girl car to a teenage girl, go buy a Honda, and go talk shit about DSM's on another bored. If you want advice on your car then stop talking crap cause someone gives you an opinion and turn your own thread into a flame fest. If there is a moderator watching please lock this thread cause its obviously useless and going no where.

 

[nuclearr]

Why is it in the last two post this guy made and he has gotten hostile in his last two posts. You try and help him and this is what we get.