420a slower on eclipse than neon?

[napkinthief]

My friend has a neon, 2000 model, curb weight 1164, same engine, 9.8:1 comp
Power: 98 kW , 132 HP @ 5,600 rpm; 130 ft lb , 177 Nm @ 4,600 rpm

vs.

my 1996 eclipse rs, curb weight 1255, 9.8:1 comp
- Power: 104 kW , 140 HP @ 6,000 rpm; 130 ft lb @ 4,800 rpm

his car seems to have much more pickup both from stationary start and from rolling start

whats the deal? ps we put 4 bags of 20lb cat litter to even out the weight but still same results

 

[glennerd87]

My friend has a neon, 2000 model, curb weight 1164, same engine, 9.8:1 comp
Power: 98 kW , 132 HP @ 5,600 rpm; 130 ft lb , 177 Nm @ 4,600 rpm

vs.

my 1996 eclipse rs, curb weight 1255, 9.8:1 comp
- Power: 104 kW , 140 HP @ 6,000 rpm; 130 ft lb @ 4,800 rpm

his car seems to have much more pickup both from stationary start and from rolling start

whats the deal? ps we put 4 bags of 20lb cat litter to even out the weight but still same results

Well first of all your curb weights are way off. the Neon's curb weight is 2,567 lbs. and the curb weight of the Eclispe is 3,552 lbs. that is probably a big part of it

 

[napkinthief]

http://www.internetautoguide.com/car-specifications/09-int/2000/plymouth/neon/

http://www.internetautoguide.com/car-specifications/09-int/1997/mitsubishi/eclipse/

 

[glennerd87]

my bad thats listed in kg. but still the weight difference can make a big deal

I got my weights from Cars.com

 

[glennerd87]

if you put 80lbs of cat litter in that wouldnt have done anything for the weight. your car is 1000lbs hevier. You must have thought that the KG was in LBS. easy mistake to make

 

[napkinthief]

wow didn;t even notice it was kgs, y does his neon sedan weight 1000 less than a coupe

 

[paranoidTSi]

- Eclipse components are heavier
- Eclipse body is bigger
- I believe the stock rims are heavier on a eclipse as well


At least a Eclipse looks good...can't say that for the Neons.

 

[speedy13]

yup,even dough the sohc neon make 5 less hp to the crank it' about 200 lbs lighter then an rs and 300 lbs lighter then a gs.this makes the neon more of an adequite car for straight line racing over the rs/gs eclipses,but oviously the design of the eclipse is far superior as well as the suspension,try to turn in a stock neon like you do in an eclipse., i would still rather have a rs or gs over a neon even though it's a little slower.

 

[TracOwner]

I saw a 5speed Neon beat a 2g 5speed GS. That's all I can say.

 

[Defiant]

Pounds per horsepower, and gearing.