400hp goal. need idea for turbo

[ciesla]

Im looking to achieve around 400hp in my 2g eclipse gst. I wanted to know what would be the best turbo to get to help me achieve these goals. and on pump gas

 

[slowboy101]

what mods do you have?

 

[pboglio]

EVO3 16g. Not fancy or trendy, but it'll get the job done. If your talking 400 w.h.p., then I'd say look for another turbo, but 400 crank h.p. is not a problem.

 

[MidnightTSI]

I agree, + 1 to that. The Evo3 won't break your budget either.

 

[ciesla]

not many mods yet. cat back exhaust, intake, and bov. im ordering a downpipe this weekend. and plan on getting an intake manifold in about 2 months. and im looking for 400 whp

 

[jdsoza]

Forced Performance 68HTA! Already hitting low 10's, inexpensive, and spool up like an EVO 16G! If i get one before they run out, this is the turbo that I am going after. Its like $900 and 500HP capable.

 

[slowboy101]

you will need to upgrade your fuel system and intake system and get a tuning program and all of that will brake your bank

 

[juvi1624]

Check out SPA Turbo's, they're good, cheap, reliable, and have a one year no questions asked warranty if you do blow it up. For 400 WHP the 5000 or 5000S should be plenty. I have a pretty good hook up on these turbos too, so if you are interested you can PM me and I'll see if I can get you a good price.

 

[ciesla]

what about the buschur br20g turbo

 

[EclipticalGS]

FP Race manifold - $175
Holset Hx-35 in a BEP .55a/r hotside - $500

500hp capable and over 60lb flow, quick spool by 3500rpms, out lasts many other turbos

 

[ciesla]

and where might i be able to find one of those

 

[EclipticalGS]

junkyard...In a newer cummins pickup...Or call around and look up some places on google. You'll find one. Ive seen damaged cores still run like a fresh breathe of air.

 

[BUTTONFLY]

Will that 16g take you to the 11's with supporting mods?? Seems like enought to get you to where you want. Nothing worse than getting to big of a turbo. You guys tell me, but I was thinking the 16g is a helluva street turbo.

 

[BIRDCLAWTSi]

I love my e316g. Spooling at 2500, Full pressure at 3500.

 

[pboglio]

Need to know what kind of mods you ultimately plan on running, your budget for the turbo, and your threshold for turbo lag.

 

[kottyking]

a 50 trim would hit the spot too on pump.

 

[Blurred Talon]

My advice, first set a budget, this is your biggest limiting factor.
After you've done that, pick worth while mods. At 400hp, a SMIM isn't going to be a huge deal. I'd spend that money else where.

 

[99gst_racer]

At 400hp, a SMIM isn't going to be a huge deal. I'd spend that money else where.

I respectfully disagree. At 400 whp, there is quite a bit to be gained my using a SMIM. I've known a few guys that dynoed around 400 whp, then added a set of mild cams and a SMIM, and they picked up another 75 whp. So if someone were to plan ahead on a build and use parts like aftermarket cams and a SMIM, they could hit that 400 WHP mark a bit easier (IE: less boost, smaller compressor, less aggressive tune, etc...)

OP: You're probably going to want to use something that flows around 50 lbs/min. You have alot of options depending on your budget and which turbine housing you require.

 

[Blurred Talon]

I respectfully disagree. At 400 whp, there is quite a bit to be gained my using a SMIM. I've known a few guys that dynoed around 400 whp, then added a set of mild cams and a SMIM, and they picked up another 75 whp. So if someone were to plan ahead on a build and use parts like aftermarket cams and a SMIM, they could hit that 400 WHP mark a bit easier (IE: less boost, smaller compressor, less aggressive tune, etc...)

OP: You're probably going to want to use something that flows around 50 lbs/min. You have alot of options depending on your budget and which turbine housing you require.

I stand corrected then Paul.

I still think he could get the numbers he wants without it though.

 

[fran_drivertsi]

400 to front wheels? e316g hands down. If you run it efficiently, you can get there with ethanol or race gas. SMIM is nice, but I've seen plenty of DSM's in 9s making over 700whp, that still use stock intake manifold.
Cams? Yes. Probably 272s with stock springs/retainers.
SMIM? No. Stock one is MORE than enough for 400hp. You won't be flowing even close to the number that would benefit SMIM.

 

[Gasolinebaptism]

+1 to an hx-35 set up.
It was built to spool on diesel fumes, and you ought to know that diesel burns cold and doesn't expand like gasoline.

 

[winkdogydog101]

16g, 272 cams, dsmchipps, 1000cc+ injectors E85, BFMI, Intake, 1g tb, and driver mod! Im pretty sure you can pull 400 off that

head gasket
arp head studs
and some more stuff wouldnt hurt

but i bet you could hit 400whp with a really good tune and playing with timing

 

[Clinical]

You mentioned a BR20g.

Yes it would work fine.
I run one and I'm running far from its full potential at 22psi and it has a lot more to go.

If I had to bench-race/butt dyno I'd say I'm around 350whp and I'm still on a stock head and everything. Actual dyno coming soon

I intend next winter to build my head and go to around 25-27psi for a 400whp goal.

 

[pboglio]

A 20g could pull off 400 w.h.p. no problem at all. I think a TD06 turbine wheel would make things alot easier. No one mentions them because it isn't the trendy turbo these days, plus they've always been expensive as hell. They are however some of the quickest spooling turbo's for the power they make. I've seen logs of all the trendy turbos, 50 trims, FP3052, and HX-35s, and the 20g's always impress me with their midrange torque. Very 16g like in that respect. Depends on driveability, cost, & power requirements.

 

[EclipticalGS]

You mentioned a BR20g.

Yes it would work fine.
I run one and I'm running far from its full potential at 22psi and it has a lot more to go.

If I had to bench-race/butt dyno I'd say I'm around 350whp and I'm still on a stock head and everything. Actual dyno coming soon

I intend next winter to build my head and go to around 25-27psi for a 400whp goal.

Try an Hx-35...you'd be likely to catch 400hp on 23-25 psi on e85 and full spool @ 3500 rpms.