400-450 WHP....Attainable with this setup?

[SaiyanPowered]

My engine is shot and I have decided to do a 6 bolt conversion with a fully built motor and a turbo system upgrade. My goal is 400-450 whp on a daily driver with limited track use. My goals may change after I have run this for awhile so I am keeping that in mind as I decide my setup. I have spoken with Darren from FFWD and we are working out the final details on the engine. But this is more or less what we are looking at:

2.3 Stroker Motor
Modified Stroker block (6 bolt crank platform)
Fully Cryoed block, crank, rods, and pistons
Custom Wiseco Pistons (9:1 ratio/.020 overbore)
Refurbbed crank to spec
Scat Rods
ARP main studs
Balance shaft removal kit installation
Line hone, torque plate boring, decking, and plateau honing of block
Balancing and blueprinting of rotating assembly
All new Clevite bearings
2g Head Reconditioning w/
DKS1 Cams (264/272) {changed to DKS2 Cams (272/272)}
{Crower Springs and Retainer set}
Adj. Cam Gears

Slowboy Exhaust Manifold w/ Wastegate flange & 38mm Tial Wastegate
3" Downpipe
PTE T3/T4 3431RE Ball Bearing Turbo
DSM Link
950cc FIC Injectors
255 Walbro fuel pump
FMIC 25x7x2.8 with short piping
GM MAF/Translator setup
{Fidanza Flywheel and ACT 2600 clutch}

Let me know what you guys think. If I forgot anything I apologize, it's 4:00 am here in Iraq. Any thoughts/criticism would be appreciated. Thanks

 

[mjarrell20]

just remember stroker motors aren't fwd friendly

 

[SaiyanPowered]

That may be true at the track but keep in mind that it's going to be a daily driver. Most of the time I'll be punching it from a roll. Also at some point in the next year I plan to do the conversion to AWD. Probably around the time I burn out the transmission, .

 

[GSntncT]

While we are keeping things in mind, realize that this question seriously cannot be answered by us. The tuning time, and dyno runs will. I wish you the best of luck. If you get the numbers you want, be sure to post it here, so we can look and smile.

 

[JayRolla]

Looks like a very good setup. You didnt mention a AFPR to keep the 255 in check, but you just probably missed that. With some race gas you should beable to hit your mark.

 

[No_Skillz]

Whatchoo gonna do wit' all that junk inside that trunk? This is benchracing.

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

just remember stroker motors aren't fwd friendly

understatement of the century. .

I would go a with a little bigger core myself but other than that you are headed in the right direction. I would personally stick witht he 2.0L

 

[CFTDSMMANIAC]

yeap 2.0L is a good displacement to achieve that 400-450HP mark with no problem

 

[Slippi84]

Yeah bigger fmic, apfr, more agressive cams as a 264 272 combo will hold you back, and like they said I would stick with the 2.0 but either way you are headed in the right direction. You can't really ask for sure stuff like how much power will I make because tuning is the ulitmate mod

 

[Shane2GSX]

You'll need a fuel pressure regulator.

 

[alex]

I wouldn't go with the 9.1 compression pistons. I'd go with 8.5 or somewhere close to that. And as far as the stroker kits, from my past reading expeirences, the stroker kits arent that great. Displacement isn't everything. I'd lower the compresssion on the pistons and loose the stroker kit.

As far as a clutch, I love my centerforce dual friction clutch. It has a nice smooth replace but yet still attains its a great grip. I've gone through many clutches, and I would have to say either go with the Centerforce or go with an ACT.

 

[SaiyanPowered]

Yeah bigger fmic, apfr, more agressive cams as a 264 272 combo will hold you back, and like they said I would stick with the 2.0 but either way you are headed in the right direction. You can't really ask for sure stuff like how much power will I make because tuning is the ulitmate mod

I understand that you can't tell me exactly how much power I will make. I know tuning will be a large part in attaining my goal. ASSuming that I have a decent tune with the setup I have layed out, does my goal look attainable? Which is a 400-450 whp daily driver on PUMP gas. I'm sorry I should have specified that on my original post. After talking with Darren at FFWD he recommended the 2.3 Stroker motor for a street setup. He runs it in his own street DSM. What kind of cam combo should I look at instead of the 264/272? Also I look at the big picture of where I want to go with this so while I know that this may not be fwd friendly, I DO plan to go AWD within the next year.

 

[Slippi84]

I understand that you can't tell me exactly how much power I will make. I know tuning will be a large part in attaining my goal. ASSuming that I have a decent tune with the setup I have layed out, does my goal look attainable? Which is a 400-450 whp daily driver on PUMP gas. I'm sorry I should have specified that on my original post. After talking with Darren at FFWD he recommended the 2.3 Stroker motor for a street setup. He runs it in his own street DSM. What kind of cam combo should I look at instead of the 264/272? Also I look at the big picture of where I want to go with this so while I know that this may not be fwd friendly, I DO plan to go AWD within the next year.

Of course he's gonna suggest the stroker iot's mad expensive and he sells them j/k

NO darren and those guys are great guys but I don't think you need a stroker for your setup. I"m not to familiar with that turbo as I have not run it or seen anyone I know run it but PTE has it at a 56mm with 3" in and 2" out and the rest of the specs look descent too so it should make 400whp but more than that would be probably harder but I mean like I said I don't know about that turbo to much but I do know that you should start doing research and reading up on the link so you get a head start on tuning. Goos luck

 

[GreddyGst]

Or you can hit 400+whp like me on a stock 7bolt block motor since 1997 with 115xxx mileage HEHE

oh yeah and daily driver!

 

[CFTDSMMANIAC]

In order to get those 400HP you dont need to have your car made with a stroker kit. Our 2.0L displacement is good for the 400HP mark, and best of all is proved to handle 400HP with your stock block.
Just get a nice descent size turbo, some injectors, FPR, Fuel Pump, FMIC, Exhaust, a good engine management and a set of HKS's 264/272 cams and with a good tunning you can make 400HP with no problem "daily Driven" oh and i almost forgot a good clutch kit.

 

[alex]

In order to get those 400HP you dont need to have your car made with a stroker kit. Our 2.0L displacement is good for the 400HP mark, and best of all is proved to handle 400HP with your stock block.

400 HP mark? Shepard is obtaining 1300 HP on the 2.0L. He doesnt have a stroker kit.

 

[94Jettameowpsst]

400 HP mark? Shepard is obtaining 1300 HP on the 2.0L. He doesnt have a stroker kit.

Most people dont run 10 1600 cc injectors, 68psi, and methanol either

 

[Slippi84]

don't get a 264/272 setup you will want to kill your self later for it as your top end will be chocked and that's where you make the big power at def go straight 272 or maybe even something more agressive.

 

[alex]

don't get a 264/272 setup you will want to kill your self later for it as your top end will be chocked and that's where you make the big power at def go straight 272 or maybe even something more agressive.

Go with some Comp street cams. They are pretty nice for a daily driver.

As for what shepard runs, fact is he is STILL running the 2.0L regardless of what he has for a setup.

 

[CFTDSMMANIAC]

Well for Cam's some people will say COMP, HKS, FP, Crower and some other brands it all depends on what are you looking for, right now if you choose 264/272 thats good enough for 400HP daily driven and you will not have that rough iddle that other cams give you.

 

[Slippi84]

Well for Cam's some people will say COMP, HKS, FP, Crower and some other brands it all depends on what are you looking for, right now if you choose 264/272 thats good enough for 400HP daily driven and you will not have that rough iddle that other cams give you.

Tons of people claim to have stock like idle with 272's and fp2's. Since he's getting cam gears he can retard his exhaust cam and get s72/254 spool also.

 

[CFTDSMMANIAC]

Ok since you are going to get adjustable cam gears get the HKS 272's thats the way to go.

 

[SaiyanPowered]

Ok since you are going to get adjustable cam gears get the HKS 272's thats the way to go.

I agree. I decided to go with the DKS2's. I appreciate everyones feedback. While the 2.0 is a solid base, I still like the pros of running a 2.3.

 

[Slippi84]

I agree. I decided to go with the DKS2's. I appreciate everyones feedback. While the 2.0 is a solid base, I still like the pros of running a 2.3.

Good choices either way. Good luck with the setup and remember tuning is the x factor

 

[JOEY A]

400 HP mark? Shepard is obtaining 1300 HP on the 2.0L. He doesnt have a stroker kit.

Shep is also a 7 SECOUND "RACE CAR" Not a street car anymore so dont even compare the 2 at this point.


If you want better low end, and faster spool up get the 2.3 thats what its for. Its for a better driving car and makes it alot more streetable thats it. Its not to go 7s, You really think sheps motor is close to anything we use in a street car.


Look at the motors in supras that are in his class, they a fully built race only motors and most street cars dont run some of the parts they are using. RACE CAR" If hes the only guy to run that kinda time in his still factory layout car he must have somthing and it sure as hell isnt store bought.