30x6x6 FMIC, how's it sound?

[gijoe985]

I'm in between DSMs right now, but plan to back in the game in the future, either way, if I had one, I'd just go out and measure.

So I came upon an intercooler that roughly measures 30x6x6. Maybe it's a little shorter, like only 5 tall. Either way, I thought, if it fit, it'd make a great intercooler that would get full air without having to cut up the nose of the car. My only question, do you guys think it will fit. This just seems shorter and fatter than any other FMIC I've read about on here.

Thanks.

 

[talonDSMerr]

6" wide is MUCH thicker than most cores. A good sized core is 3.5" thick. Many run 3". I feel 6" is overkill. If you need to cool that much air, a water/air intercooler is a better match for the setup, or even water/meth injection.

 

[nytescion]

being thicker would make up for not being as tall. Though it would be harder to get air to the radiator unless it went over the top of the IC. I was going to go this route too when i blew the sbr like core. But i went a different route. Also i think it would be too thick to fit behind the bumper with trimming the plastic bumper all up.

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

that is way to thick man. It won't work too well on your setup and it will most likely cause over heating due to lack of air flow to the radiator.

 

[gijoe985]

being thicker would make up for not being as tall.

That's the only reason I even mentioned it. I figure it's half the height and twice the thickness of what I see most people run (for a large FMIC.) And the only reason I thought it might be better was because it'd match the height of the stock opening on the bumper. You might have to trim so that it'll fit, but I'm kinda into sleepers... So I like the idea of it not being as visible.

Maybe going with a big SMIC is the trick. I haven't done much research into larger SMICs. I've heard of going with a Supra one, or welding two together. Don't know how it'd compare.

 

[nytescion]

I wouldn't go through to trouble of welding two together. why don't you just get a small front mount like one that has dimensions of 29x8x2.5 or 3 or something and just lightly spray it black. my buddy has his lightly coated in black paint and if he drives on behind or beside you. you can tell it's an intercooler there. He is using the SBR core. (if you think the paint will stop performance he is also around 500whp just to let you know. also you can touch the hot side of the IC and then the cold side and there is a HUGE difference in temp).

 

[gijoe985]

I wouldn't go through to trouble of welding two together. why don't you just get a small front mount like one that has dimensions of 29x8x2.5 or 3 or something and just lightly spray it black. my buddy has his lightly coated in black paint and if he drives on behind or beside you. you can tell it's an intercooler there. He is using the SBR core. (if you think the paint will stop performance he is also around 500whp just to let you know. also you can touch the hot side of the IC and then the cold side and there is a HUGE difference in temp).

Still at 8" tall, wouldn't you need to cut the opening larger on the bumper to get the whole face of the intercooler exposed? I've thought about the painting it black idea. I've actually heard that a light dust coating of paint can actually help with heat dissipation by increasing surface area.

 

[nytescion]

Still at 8" tall, wouldn't you need to cut the opening larger on the bumper to get the whole face of the intercooler exposed? I've thought about the painting it black idea. I've actually heard that a light dust coating of paint can actually help with heat dissipation by increasing surface area.

I don't know how you're increasing surface area. Maybe more material...? but I wouldn't cut the bumper just so all the fmic would show. take for example the BR, SBR or the ETS race cores. alot of the IC is behind the bumper and I'm sure most people don't hack up the plastic bumper so that it all shows. (but the bumper support is cut up to allow it to fit.)

 

[andy4g63]

I don't know how you're increasing surface area. Maybe more material...? but I wouldn't cut the bumper just so all the fmic would show. take for example the BR, SBR or the ETS race cores. alot of the IC is behind the bumper and I'm sure most people don't hack up the plastic bumper so that it all shows. (but the bumper support is cut up to allow it to fit.)

It is very important, that the surface area of FMIC is exposed, otherwise performance of the intercooler suffers. With FMIC's is more about surface area, that thickness.
If you don't want to cut the bumper skin, is your call, but I don't see the point of having a FMIC, that is 12" and half on it is behind the bumper, wher the airflow is limited and cooling suffers, not to mention tthe cooling of the motor suffers too.
My FMIC is 8x24x3.5" and this isn't big by today's standards, but my AIT's are 102*F on top of 3 gear-8300 RPM/24 PSI-pump. And this is after continious slow and stop and go driving, if cruising low to mid 80's.
To the OP, I think 6" is way too thick and wouldn't work, besides I never heard of 6" thick FMIC, not only on DSm, but any import turbo car, nor Supra, or Nissan, etc.

that is way to thick man. It won't work too well on your setup and it will most likely cause over heating due to lack of air flow to the radiator.

That is an excellent point, Marty..

 

[Slippi84]

It is very important, that the surface area of FMIC is exposed, otherwise performance of the intercooler suffers. With FMIC's is more about surface area, that thickness.
If you don't want to cut the bumper skin, is your call, but I don't see the point of having a FMIC, that is 12" and half on it is behind the bumper, wher the airflow is limited and cooling suffers, not to mention tthe cooling of the motor suffers too.
My FMIC is 8x24x3.5" and this isn't big by today's standards, but my AIT's are 102*F on top of 3 gear-8300 RPM/24 PSI-pump. And this is after continious slow and stop and go driving, if cruising low to mid 80's.
To the OP, I think 6" is way too thick and wouldn't work, besides I never heard of 6" thick FMIC, not only on DSm, but any import turbo car, nor Supra, or Nissan, etc.




That is an excellent point, Marty..

Jeff bush runs a 6" ETS fmic on his 1g that made 961whp that is the only 6" thick intercooler I have ever heard of. My fmic came off a 800whp car and it's 4" thick so I know that it's possible to run a thick intercooler like this just doesn't seem practical.

 

[kottyking]

This sounds really dumb. Stop and go cruising and that bish overheats like a pig in heat.

 

[tkelly27]

Generally the point of a thicker core is to get better flow. You're typically not gaining much in the way of cooling efficiency as the ambient air has already been heated by the first section of the IC.

You could use it, but you'd probably like something from the vendors or an ebay unit better.

 

[gijoe985]

I don't know how you're increasing surface area. Maybe more material...?

I heard this from a guy who used to build engines for shifter karts. They would put an extremely light coat of black paint on their engines (which already have cooling fins on them) the idea is that the rugged paint finish has slightly more surface area than a smooth finish. It's extreme, but racecar engineers come up with some extreme ideas to squeeze that last 1/4hp out.