2jz-gte Rwd 2g Gsx

[JEFFREYCASTGSX]

My go is that you would NEVER catch me doing something like this in a dsm. Why? Well because for one you can name a fast supra and I can name a faster DSM. Other then that I guess it would be cool, but there is NO advantages tohavving thatengine in there. If a supra was AWD, it too would break trannies.

 

[bOOstd GSX]

Whoever drives drunk is a ####ing idiot, period.
I would suggest paying off your fines before blowing all your money on something fruitless like a 2jz swap, I'm sure this thread will be whored all over the net in the next few months....

I suggest minding your own business before you start getting into mine.

My fines were paid off cash the day of my sentencing. Perks of being a project manager for an electrical/mechanical contracting firm.

It was my first offense and I know I was wrong.

I had 3 beers over the course of 2 hours and blew a .09, I got pulled over because my jagoff ex g/f threw a sheetz rapper out the window.

Like I said if it has no relevance towards the swap then dont post and GTFO.


As far as the swap goes, i just dont want to put a v8 in it. I'm going to keep the swap fairly streetable, shooting for somewhere in the 450-550hp region, and keep the MPG half decent.






...

As I said before this isnt going to be a drag car, mainly drifting and occasional auto x.

My go is that you would NEVER catch me doing something like this in a dsm. Why? Well because for one you can name a fast supra and I can name a faster DSM. Other then that I guess it would be cool, but there is NO advantages tohavving thatengine in there. If a supra was AWD, it too would break trannies.

To each his own...

but are you trying to tell me that the 4g63 drivetrain (including tranny) is more reliable than the 2JZ (and either 6 speed or 5 speed)?

Absolutely not... ever. Everyone in the industry knows that the RB and 2J motors are probably 2 of the best japanese motors ever produced. They take simple bolt ons and BELT OUT hp and take a beating like a b16 in a honda. I've driven my fair share of cars, and built an assload as well. After my 1JZ 240 i was sold on doing this swap. The motor/tranny is bulletproof to 700hp. The only reason i wouldn't swap an RB in is simply cost of regular maintenance parts here in the states. I'll go right to the Toyots dealership and get everything I need.

Do you realize how much more money it would take to build a inline 4 to make the same hp as an inline 6? facts dont lie, there is no replacement for displacement. it's just a better motor.

I mean I love the 4G dont get me wrong, but dont rule everything else out because it's WHAT YOU HAVE.

Call slowboy and ask them how much I put into my motors... theyll smile and say "we love that guy"

The fact of the matter is that theres no replacement for displacement. And the 2JZ is a happy medium for me


As far as the world's fastest goes... who gives a sh!t . I'm never going to dump 100,000 into a car to go fast for 6 or 7 second bursts... neither are you... neither are 99.8% of the rest of the world.

I'm building this car for me. I don't mean to be a dick so I'm sorry if that's how I'm coming off, I just want to share my ideas, and the process with you guys. I feel bad for the dsm community sometimes. It doesn't get as much respect as it should, and from what ive seen its not a family type community like the Nissan or Honda guys. I'm not saying there aren't, but anything we want to do we need to do it ourselves for the most part. We don't have the same type of aftermarket backing that Hondas and Nissans do. So before bitching at someone for trying something different, why don't you sit back and enjoy it, instead of telling me why I shouldn't. No one has a gun to anyone elses heading making them swap a 2JZ.

 

[jjrock5]

^ I like his rebuttle. hahahahaha.

Go ahead with the builld. And if it so happens that ''it was not a good idea'' then at least you made one badass one of a kind machine. Subscribed.

 

[housegsx]

I'm in Greensburg. Whenever this gets underway I'm coming over to see it.

 

[bOOstd GSX]

HAHA sounds good bro!

I'm actually located in State College, Pa now. Shit I was still in high school when i was living in plum and build my first 2G.

Only pic I got of the outside I lost all my picstures from my gallery when they switches servers a LONG time ago.

You must be logged in to view this image or video.

 

[kottyking]

Can you please do this to a fwd dsm. So that way I dont have to see another awd bite the dust for no reason?

 

[bOOstd GSX]

Calm down guy, the GSX wasnt a 1 out of 50 limited edition supercar . Youll be able to find a few here and there!

 

[booostedGSX]

I'm in Greensburg. Whenever this gets underway I'm coming over to see it.

Ditto. I'm in White Oak and am in Plum pretty often since my best friend just bought a house there.

 

[Rob10_99]

If you don't like to be ridiculed on the internet, keep it to yourself.

 

[xlMcMlx DsM]

Very curious to see how this will turn out. I was bitten by the 2JZ bug last summer, and still am interested in an MKIII. But best of luck, and keep us updated!!

 

[jjrock5]

I guess this would be the next best thing next to a Supra itself.

 

[bOOstd GSX]

If you don't like to be ridiculed on the internet, keep it to yourself.

Alrighty troll.








...I just like doing things that arent doen very often. I fell in love with my GSX. It was my first car and I have been itching to build another one. this one is just gonna be a little "out of the ordinary"

 

[99gst_racer]

I suggest minding your own business before you start getting into mine.

Like I said if it has no relevance towards the swap then dont post and GTFO.

In all fairness, you're the one that brought it up. If you didn't want it discussed, you probably shouldn't have mentioned it in your first post.

Do you realize how much more money it would take to build a inline 4 to make the same hp as an inline 6? facts dont lie, there is no replacement for displacement. it's just a better motor.

Whoa, that's not a typical DSMers thought process.

So, it's cheaper to build a 2JZ to make 550 WHP these days? I'm no Supra/2JZ expert, but that doesn't add up.

Your displacement comment is a bit misguiding in this thread as well. You make it sound like you need more displacement for your goals. You're doing the swap for the fun of the job, and to be "the guy with the 2JZ-powered DSM", not because of displacement or because anything on the DSM is lacking for your goals.

Displacement is no replacement for high cylinder pressures. Just ask those V8 guys that don't believe we can get 5+HP per cubic inch on a street application.

 

[hubz91talontsi]

The best part of a DSM is the engine

The best part of a supra is the engine =D
People on this forum don't care much for swaps. Someone mentioned a 3000gt vr4 rear... make sure its the 2gen.. 94-96 6 speed rear end.. 25spline. BTW those also have getrags in them.

 

[kottyking]

The best part of a supra is the engine =D
People on this forum don't care much for swaps. Someone mentioned a 3000gt vr4 rear... make sure its the 2gen.. 94-96 6 speed rear end.. 25spline. BTW those also have getrags in them.

You wanna know why were not much for swaps? The 4g63 is a proven engine, over and over and over again. You can make gross power on the cheap. You can go 12's on bolt on's and a 14b (not easy but doable).

 

[knochgoon24]

State College you say...
<---

So what are you ripping out of the car that I could pick up for cheap?

 

[JEFFREYCASTGSX]

Um? I never meant any disrespect to you, but everyone wants to do crazy stuff, some do it to make a better product, and some do it just do it. In your case your NOT making a better product, truth is, the same amount of mods/money will take you to 700hp in either a 4g63(built motor on 4g63 though) or a 2jz, both need more fuel and more air, its as simple as that. There is nothing special about a 2jz other then that it can "take" insane amount of power on there stock bottom end, and btw THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACMENT, thats a V8 slogan that is a general statement, displacement has almost no general relation with how much power, other then that a bigger engine will suck more(due to more area) air and make more power. Shove the same amount of air(and fuel) into a 4g63 and 2jz and they WILL MAKE THE SAME AMOUNT OF POWER. Yes a supra tranny is strong, BUT it only powers TWO wheels, im know for a fact that if our AWD cars were RWD, they would put up with SO MUCH MORE power(torque).

 

[hubz91talontsi]

You wanna know why were not much for swaps? The 4g63 is a proven engine, over and over and over again. You can make gross power on the cheap. You can go 12's on bolt on's and a 14b (not easy but doable).

Yes...thanks? Everyone on this forum knows this. Thats like saying keep the ka24 in a 240... There are better engines. People need to realise on this forum its not just about a 4g63 and start opening there minds. Just because you perhaps drive a 11sec car its not the fastest car in the world.

 

[kottyking]

Yes...thanks? Everyone on this forum knows this. Thats like saying keep the ka24 in a 240... There are better engines. People need to realise on this forum its not just about a 4g63 and start opening there minds. Just because you perhaps drive a 11sec car its not the fastest car in the world.

O I thought you didn't know and that's why you asked why we weren't into swaps. I understand that this isn't the GREATEST engine in the world (very close tho). It is the best engine for this car tho. To the op about 1 in 50 super car comment, AWD turbo came in 10% of all dsms. So yes, you were pretty close.

 

[JEFFREYCASTGSX]

Yes...thanks? Everyone on this forum knows this. Thats like saying keep the ka24 in a 240... There are better engines. People need to realise on this forum its not just about a 4g63 and start opening there minds. Just because you perhaps drive a 11sec car its not the fastest car in the world.

Well i think your in the wrong site. The majority of all us on this site KNOW that this motor is superior to 99.9% of all engines out there, and we can back it up. I mean when the FASTEST/QUICKEST 4-cylinder, the HIGHEST HP 4-cylinder, FASTEST back-halved sport compact, the FASTEST MODIFIED 4-cylinder, the FASTEST 3/4 chassis, the FASTEST AWD, cars all run a 4g63, does some silly little vtak engine do that? NOPE, and like i said before, you can name the fastest supra/skyline/rx-7(whatever) out there and i can always name a faster DSM.

 

[Sam@RRE]

To the OP, Not going to say don't do it, and not going to say do it. What you want to do with your time, life and money is up to you. Arnold Swartzawhatever wanted to be a body builder>movie start>governator. Go on with your bad self. Richard Simmons wanted to be an awkward homosexual fitness instructor. Go on with your bad self. Do what you want to do. You don't need anyone's approval or opinion. You don't even have to post it on this forum. Just do it, do your own research and do it. Any of my projects or RRE projects, whether people know about it on the internet or not. I just did it. If it worked it worked, if it didn't it got chopped up and thrown into a dungeon of lions with lasers on their heads.

And when its done, show pics videos and whatever you want. Drive it, Race it, Jump it, Fly it, Have sex in it with a girl you wont remember the next day. If you have the skill and patience, you can do just about anything. (v8 2G is kind of scary). So all in all, Just do it.

And if my opinion matters for anything or if you just want it for some consolation prize, 2JZ motors are Overrated. Supra's are overrated. the 4G63 is overrated by the owners, and underrated by the rest of the world. SR20 is in the same boat as the 4G63 as far as popularity goes, but recently got new light with the drift scene. RB series is overrated, but impressive none the less.

What I find impressive?
http://godaddy.infinitylimited.net/misc_media/biggest_engine.gif
http://im.videosearch.rediff.com/th...ideoImages1/youtube/rdhash827/N8TXMUaC9Os.gif
Swap either of those into my 2G.

 

[6bolt2gdsm]

Subscribed! I really wanna see how or if this turns out.

 

[TheOctane]

...
And if my opinion matters for anything or if you just want it for some consolation prize, 2JZ motors are Overrated. Supra's are overrated. the 4G63 is overrated by the owners, and underrated by the rest of the world. SR20 is in the same boat as the 4G63 as far as popularity goes, but recently got new light with the drift scene. RB series is overrated, but impressive none the less.

What I find impressive?
http://godaddy.infinitylimited.net/misc_media/biggest_engine.gif
http://im.videosearch.rediff.com/th...ideoImages1/youtube/rdhash827/N8TXMUaC9Os.gif
Swap either of those into my 2G.

So aside from the baby motor or the King Kong monstrosity which motor(s), might i ask, do you like if not the 2J, 4g63, SR20, or RB?

side note, didnt mean to try to highjack the thread

 

[bOOstd GSX]

1) The 2JZ and the RB are overrated? Cmon man, these motors are tried and true. the Supra gets a bad wrap for being "slow" because of people aiming for HP numbers instead of spead. They have these HUGE FLIPPIN turbos being spooled by 3.0 liters. It's all about picking the perfect mechanically matched turbo for the motor based on airflow dynamics.

2) Making 550whp with a 2JZ and making 550whp in a 4G63 are going to cost the same? Since when bro? You dont have to build a 2JZ internally, the 4G will blow up the fawk up, guaranteed. I had close to 6 grand in my motor when i put down a little over 500 to the wheels, and that was without engine management, fuel system, or FI system.

The 4G is an AWESOME motor for its time, unfortunately the tranny wasnt so great.

All i'm saying is for what its going to take to build a "RELIABLE" 4G you could have a stock swap making around 400whp with a 2jz, a cool factor youll never get with a 4G and RWD. These things are very appealing to me

 

[95eclipser]

Well i think your in the wrong site. The majority of all us on this site KNOW that this motor is superior to 99.9% of all engines out there, and we can back it up. I mean when the FASTEST/QUICKEST 4-cylinder, the HIGHEST HP 4-cylinder, FASTEST back-halved sport compact, the FASTEST MODIFIED 4-cylinder, the FASTEST 3/4 chassis, the FASTEST AWD, cars all run a 4g63, does some silly little vtak engine do that? NOPE, and like i said before, you can the fastest supra/skyline/rx-7(whatever) out there and i can always name a faster DSM

.

i just like how this was written.. haha =)

anyways if you want to do then do it.. but you got to know that on any car forum you post this on ; your going to get you fair share of S**t talk from the die hard platform lovers for doing this bastardized swap

Drew..