255 Walboro or Supra fuel pump

[GSX93DSM]

I have a 190 fuel pump now i want to upgrade but i want to now which one would be better. I have heard different stories about both. I just want an opinion?

 

[GVR4592]

The Supra pump flows a little more than the Walbro, and the Supra pump will last a hell of a lot longer than the Walbro will.

 

[overboostedawd]

i wish i had my 190 back i hate my 255 it wines so loud its nuts i can hear it standing 10ft away from my car with a full 3" turbo back and no cat so yeah kinda says how loud it is and inside the car it sucks for long drives ppl that dopnt know about the 255 are like whats the noise but then others say haha i can hear the walbrow hope this helped at all

 

[DGajre777]

The supra pump is a Denso 260 LPH pump, part number 195130-1020. Here are the flow rates of the supra pump compared to the Walbro 190 and 255. http://www.roadraceengineering.com/fuelpumpflowrates.htm

Make sure you get an AFPR.

 

[fourreGsixty3]

Unlike the wally 255lph pump, the Denso 260lph aka Supra TT pump flows a little more 5 lph to be exact, and is quite a bit quiter. My vote is to the Supra pump.

 

[TSIMonsteR]

Anybody know where I can get the Supra pump new??? Also, what does it take to install one on a 2g AWD

***edit*** DSMotorsports.com has them for a whopping $300

 

[fourreGsixty3]

http://www.diamondstarmotorsport.com/fuelparts.shtml has them for sale for 299$, a bit more expensive then the Wally's but definately worth it.

 

[TSIMonsteR]

If anybody knows where we can get Supra TT Pumps and/or install kits for them. Post please!!!

 

[DGajre777]

If anybody knows where we can get Supra TT Pumps and/or install kits for them. Post please!!!

There is a supra pump for sale in the classifieds. I'm sure local Toyota dealers will be able to get them too.

 

[TSIMonsteR]

They are right at $400 at Autozone and NAPA

 

[knighteclipse1]

I bought my Walbro 255 new and installed it, and soon as I did I started having problems with it, yes it is rather noisy too. I finally got tired of it and talked to some folks at Polkperformance and they happend to have a used Supra pump they sold me for 75.00 bucks. And I haven't had a problem since with it and its quiet as well, I haven't looked back since. The Supra pump is a quality pump I would highly recommend.

 

[fourreGsixty3]

With ^^^ said, either get the supra FP new for 300$ or used for less then 100$, either way its better then paying 150$ for a wally 255, having problems and it being noisy as hell, then getting a Supra FP later and kicking your self for not getting it earlier.

 

[daren_p]

My Walbro 255HP seems to work fine, but it is noisy as hell. They seem to be hit & miss as to houw loud they are. I have a buddy with one & you can barely hear it. If I was to do it again I'd probably spend the extra to get the supra pump & still might pick one up eventually.

 

[Mindslayer]

I had both And now in my used supra fuel pump and got it rewired. Well worth the money

 

[eldiabloz13]

which supras can you find them off. Will the old body styles have the 260 or no. What needs to be done for the new 260 to work properly in a 91 tsi awd. Is a wally 190 so bad? Will it be able to cope with a 16g evo III. Now installing a 260 wouldent it waste more gas and not even be worth it on the 16g evo?

 

[DGajre777]

Is a wally 190 so bad? Will it be able to cope with a 16g evo III. Now installing a 260 wouldent it waste more gas and not even be worth it on the 16g evo?

For an EVO III 16G, a 190 pump will be more than enough. With a 260 supra or 255 walbro, you'll need an AFPR to prevent fuel overrun. And no, a 260 won't waste more gas.

 

[Wells]

I can't even hear my supra fuel pump ... but then again I have a stripped interior and a N1 exhaust ..

I have a B&M command flo FPR and the gauge, but I was reading on here that it's not good because it doesn't raise the fuel pressure at a 1:1 ratio .. I'm I going to potentially run to lean? I have dsmlink, and a LM-1 wideband for tuning .. but I don't have a gauge to monitor the air fuel ratio all the time.

 

[1LE]

IIRC, the Supra pump has been tested to be around 290lph in real life (assuming sufficient voltage). Draws a LOT of current to do it though... Can't find the link with the comparo right now. Will post it up if I can find it again.

 

[GSX93DSM]

That what I was wondering I work for Toyota and can get the supra fuel pump for $200

 

[oldman]

I have a B&M command flo FPR and the gauge, but I was reading on here that it's not good because it doesn't raise the fuel pressure at a 1:1 ratio .

That isn't exactly correct. The B&M commend flo is not a true replacement AFPR, it's a stock FPR modifier but it retains the part on the stock fpr that causes fpr overrun, the small return orifice, therefore the B&M commend flo gets overruned just like the stocker.

 

[Quasimondo]

which supras can you find them off. Will the old body styles have the 260 or no. What needs to be done for the new 260 to work properly in a 91 tsi awd. Is a wally 190 so bad? Will it be able to cope with a 16g evo III. Now installing a 260 wouldent it waste more gas and not even be worth it on the 16g evo?

The fuel pump is from the MkIV (93-98) Twin Turbo Supra. Installation is simple, and instructions are on the VFAQ (Look under the "Mustang" fuel pump install). An adjustable fuel pressure regulator is highly recommended for this install.

A Supra fuel pump will be no problem for a EvoIII 16G, and it will not waste gas since DSM's, like most fuel injected engines, use a closed-loop system to maintain fuel pressure to the injectors. The fuel that does not go through the injectors is returned to the fuel tank.

BTW, the fuel pump comparision was done by the good folks of Road Race Engineering:
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/fuelpumptechtip.htm

 

[djseclipse]

I can't even hear my supra fuel pump ... but then again I have a stripped interior and a N1 exhaust ..

I have a B&M command flo FPR and the gauge, but I was reading on here that it's not good because it doesn't raise the fuel pressure at a 1:1 ratio .. I'm I going to potentially run to lean? I have dsmlink, and a LM-1 wideband for tuning .. but I don't have a gauge to monitor the air fuel ratio all the time.

no you wont run lean, extremely rich is more like it. you cant lower your fuel pressure with the b&m model. i reccomend a aeromotive afpr.

 

[TSIMonsteR]

I can get a walbro 255lph hp, install kit, and an aeromotive afpr kit, for less then the price of the supra pump alone..... is it really worth it?

 

[nightspeed87]

do the 190s make any noise like you mentioned about a 255?

 

[1LE]

I can get a walbro 255lph hp, install kit, and an aeromotive afpr kit, for less then the price of the supra pump alone..... is it really worth it?

Guess the Supra guys must be running out of them... They were the cheap solution since the Supra guys would sell them cheap when upgrading...

I'd still prefer to have a denso pump than a walbro, but I sure wish it didn't consume so much power.