2150cc injector woes

[phunny]

I think it's time to get rid of them because I don't have access to E85 . I'm thinking some 1000cc's should work just fine for me. Any opinions

 

[RadDsm]

Are you having issues with them and pump gas?

 

[phunny]

Are you having issues with them and pump gas?

Yes, they stumble at around 2500 rpms and it will drive you crazy after awhile

 

[snowborder714]

They shouldn't cause you issues. Post up a log maybe?

 

[Calan]

Or just trade them to me straight up for my FIC Bluemax 1250's that are awesome.

But like Brian said... they are considered by many people to be the best injectors you can get. Something doesn't sound right.

 

[snowborder714]

Hey, I posted in the thread first


Plus. I'm closer

 

[Calan]

But I asked first...and I'll pay shipping both ways.

 

[phunny]

I'm definitely interested since this won't tune out.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/log-file-advice/402243-2-3-off-corn-pump-d.html

Here's Jeffs email about the tune
car is done did 449whp at 22psi. The car has a light hick up some times when going through 2500rpm. I dont think its that big of a deal but the smaller injectors is probalby the only way to fix it. I will do the retune on the smaller ones for free if you dont like the 2150s on gas.

$300 tune did spend a ton of time sine the injectors are so big
$140 install of heater switch
$ 50 heater switch
$ 70 fix door locks
$560+ tax would be our total

Lucas English
www.EnglishRacing.net
360-210-7484 shop
360-901-3112 Cell

 

[snowborder714]

I'm sure it will tune out, but it will need a bit of work. There's a good bit of issues with your log, in which I'm replying in the other thread.

FYI, Tom Dorris has run 2150's without any issues that I'm aware of.

 

[JusMX141]

Sounds like your 2150's are a candidate for the Individual Injector Testing Station.

ECMTuning User Support Forums

 

[knochgoon24]

You're running SD, correct?

I only ask because for some reason, there's a jitter in the IPW around 2500rpm on the 98/99 and Evo implementations of SD. There are theories on why and a few "fixes".

Maybe something like that is happening to you.

 

[dragonov_elite]

Sounds like your 2150's are a candidate for the Individual Injector Testing Station.

ECMTuning User Support Forums

Wow.. that is quite the read . I hope they can test some FIC 1050's soon. Thanks for referencing that thread.

 

[turboglenn]

Well since people are talking trades, and i am looking for bigger too, i have a set of year old 1000;s i'll ultra sonic clean and flow clean and test to ensure they are perfect for anything bigger, i'm ruynning out of pulsewidth on my e85 DD

 

[twdorris]

FYI, Tom Dorris has run 2150's without any issues that I'm aware of.

But to clarify a bit, I run E85. Running gasoline puts the injector PW even lower and I've still not yet tested a set of 2150s on our bench to see where they start acting goofy. Most injectors do something like this down low:

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Those are grey-case pintle 1600s, but by the very nature of operation, I'm pretty sure most injectors are eventually going to do something similar at some point as PW drops. We're still considering some code changes inside the ECU to account for this behavior since it seems to be so common with aftermarket injectors.

If you can find a set of injectors that has this behavior but has it in an area where our engines never operate, then that'd be great. But so far, every (aftermarket) injector we've tested goes "parabolic" right in the area where our cars idle and cruise. Above that, they all seem nice and linear.

Oh, also, I should add that the person running my 2150s right now is actually running on gasoline. He hasn't mentioned any issues, though. So there's another fairly random data point to add to the mix I suppose.

Thomas Dorris