2.3 stroker motor, trans, clutch PROBLEMS??

[Forces32psi]

ok here is my situation.. i have a 2.3 stroker motor w/ eagle rods and ross pistons, long block is together, timing belt is installed and everything lines up great as far as marks etc when rotated 6 times, crank cams blah blah and i can spin it from the crank pulley just fine w/ or w/ out the plugs in . my trans was built by jerry in florida (aka lancerman on tampabay.dsm.org) and after running his trans on my 2.0 for a while i decided to go ahead and use it on my stroker but put a lsd in the front diff and replaced the stock center diff w/ a spool from slowboy, the flywheel and clutch im running are the same i was running on my 2.0 as well.. a act 2600 and a act 11lbs flywheel.. the trans is all back together and i can turn the input shaft in all gears just fine etc..

SO my problem is this.. when the motor and trans and everything is installed i try and turn the key and it sounds like the motor is struggling to TRY and turn over, i have spark and gas and the cas is in the right postion as well.. so i get out and try and turn the crank from the pulley and its hard as hell to turn IF i can even get it to turn.. it feels notchy like there are splines somewhere that arent lining up correctly .. keep in mind that when the motor and trans are seperated they BOTH spin just fine?? and i cant find signs of metal grinding off anywhere like metal splinters or anything anywhere.. i unhook the transfer case then both the front wheels spin and the input shaft to the transfer case when the trans is in nuetral when i turn one of the front tires AND when i rotate the motor from the crank everything turns as well EVEN when the trans is in nuetral again and it still feels notchy and very hard to rotate??? when i take front cv joints out and rotate from crank pulley (no transfer case or front shafts just the motor and trans now) its is hard as hell and is still notchy like splines arent lining up somewhere... am i missing something here?? is there suppose to be something in the back of the crank between the flywheel and crank to push the flywheel closer to the input shaft of the trans or something??? i look at the splines on the clutch and input shaft of the trans and nothing.. no marks or slivers or anything showing signs of grinding....and even if it was just barely touching it wouldnt just grind and it would be easy to turn everything from the crank still wouldnt it?? i dont know what to do ive pulled my trans TWICE today and im sitting in this situation now w/ the trans on my floor and the motor in the car and i just put the motor in last weekend and it hasnt ran yet. i have replaced my battery and the starter as well to eliminate them from this problem to... is it the trans?? any help would be great.. thanx in advance..steven

 

[Injected]

First, maybe you should rename the post to let people know that you are having a problem. "4G64 stroker crank" doesn't let people know that you are having some kind of assembly/starting problem. I know, your probably tired and frustrated and didn't even think twice about it, but heh, maybe someone will see that you have a problem and look at the thread to help you. If that doesn't work, try posting in the problem/diagnosis section. If still no response, maybe try the driveline section.

As for the problem, I read your post and got a little lost. You are saying that as of right now, when separate, the trans and engine spin just fine. However together, they do not. The engine will or will not turn over (maybe try and turn it over without the trans installed). Maybe a little more clarification could set us on the right track.

 

[Forces32psi]

i allready stated that when they are seperated that the motor AND the trans spin just fine...steven

 

[Scrymerr]

Is your starter OK?

 

[Forces32psi]

i also stated in that book up there that i allready repalced my starter and battery.. and tahtstill wouldnt explain the grinding (like splines) noise when i rotate the motor from the crank.. steven

 

[Scrymerr]

i also stated in that book up there that i allready repalced my starter and battery.. and tahtstill wouldnt explain the grinding (like splines) noise when i rotate the motor from the crank.. steven

Sorry, I read right over it.

 

[huafist]

I'd check your clutch disc alignment and make sure your transmission's input shaft doesn't have any play. If those check out, then I'd check the block to make sure the alignment dowels for the transmission are in place. It sounds to me like it's binding up.

 

[Forces32psi]

I'd check your clutch disc alignment and make sure your transmission's input shaft doesn't have any play. If those check out, then I'd check the block to make sure the alignment dowels for the transmission are in place. It sounds to me like it's binding up.

see thats what i thought the 1st time i pulled my trans yesterday and used the alignment tool and it STILL did the same thing .. sounded like something was in a bind or something, and as far as the input shaft to the trans it looks fine, and spins fine when the trans and motor are seperated, it doesnt move in or out or sideways,, jsut spins. but il check the dowels tonight and repost... but i agree it DEFINETLY sounds like soemthing is binding up i just cant figure out what and where its binding up.. but it sounds like a male and female spline (clutch and input shaft of trans??) just barely touching and turning BARELY but the notchy sound and feel like splines or something.?? thans for the suggestions..steven

 

[Forces32psi]

i checked the dowel pins and they are fine... the flywheel isnt crooked or anything either..everything is straight.. im waiting ot hear back from that guy taht put my spool and LSD in my trans to see if anything was istalled incorrectly.. is that even possible to be able to install a spool or LSD incorrectly and have everything go back together??? steven

 

[Forces32psi]

i got it figured out..it ended up being my brand new starter.. it was getting hung up on the flywheel because i wasnt holding the starter up w/ my other hand while i was tightening the bolts so it was getting put on w/ a slight bend...thanx for everyones help..steven

 

[Scrymerr]

i got it figured out..it ended up being my brand new starter..

Glad you got it figured out. Happy boosting!

 

[IMMORTALSPYDER]

Glad you figured it out. I was gonna suggest the starter too.