Goreb
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- Jun 18, 2024
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Washington
Hey guys,
Finally deciding to post here to find any guidance on the electrical issues on my 1996 420a Talon, I've been having since June. I am at the point where I'm wondering if the ECU is failing. I have read through all the forums trying to find a related issue, yet was unable. So, here I am posting..
I'll describe the few problems I'm having and then what I have done to try to fix it. My main problem is that my alternator seems to periodically stop charging, I'll get a battery light, then when I park the car and shut it off and start it again the battery light more often than not will stay off. Eventually the alternator would stop charging completely and the car wouldn't start. So, I replaced it back in June, twice actually which it ran fine for months until recently this month I started getting a random misfire code P0300, the light has been flashing ever since. I also have a rough idle, and battery light which is still very periodic. Sometimes weeks without the light turning on. I have a 12v reader for my cigarette lighter which would read 11.8-12.3 but stays in that range when the battery light is on, but when it's not on it charges like normal. 13.8-14.1 depending on throttle.
The misfire isn't noticeable 99.99% of the time, It only is when I am downshifting I do occasionally get a piston slap like misfire or something similar.
At an attempt to fix the idle surge I replaced the intake, plenum, and TB gasket to make sure there was no leaks. I also replaced fuel injector o rings, and tips of the injectors while I was there and cleaned the IAC valve and all other sensors attached. My revs don't hang when not on the throttle at freeway speeds anymore, but still hangs when coming to a stop, it stays about 2000 then decays to a normal idle. I did order a new IAC to see if that will fix the surge, I have noticed the surge when starting the car as well, it just sounds like it revs higher when it starts.
The only other related electrical issue I have is a bad taillight ground or something similar because I have been told it is periodically dim or just out when I am driving. Surely that wouldn't be the culprit for my problems right? but I know I should fix it.
OBD2 Codes I have.
#1 P0300 - Random Misfire across all cylinders
#2 High voltage on bank 2 sensor (I don't have a cat)
#3 One for the EGR (I haven't added the resistor since I did the EGR block off well before all of these issues.)
All of these issues combined really leads me to believe the ECU is going out. Back in June when I was having the majority of the charging problems I did try to read the voltage on pins related to the alternator on the ECU, they had proper voltage, but I was using a 97 wiring diagram which doesn't have the same pinout as a 96 right?
I know there is a lot of information in there, as well as a lot of questions. Any help, guidance or assistance is greatly appreciated, thank you all for your time.
Finally deciding to post here to find any guidance on the electrical issues on my 1996 420a Talon, I've been having since June. I am at the point where I'm wondering if the ECU is failing. I have read through all the forums trying to find a related issue, yet was unable. So, here I am posting..
I'll describe the few problems I'm having and then what I have done to try to fix it. My main problem is that my alternator seems to periodically stop charging, I'll get a battery light, then when I park the car and shut it off and start it again the battery light more often than not will stay off. Eventually the alternator would stop charging completely and the car wouldn't start. So, I replaced it back in June, twice actually which it ran fine for months until recently this month I started getting a random misfire code P0300, the light has been flashing ever since. I also have a rough idle, and battery light which is still very periodic. Sometimes weeks without the light turning on. I have a 12v reader for my cigarette lighter which would read 11.8-12.3 but stays in that range when the battery light is on, but when it's not on it charges like normal. 13.8-14.1 depending on throttle.
The misfire isn't noticeable 99.99% of the time, It only is when I am downshifting I do occasionally get a piston slap like misfire or something similar.
At an attempt to fix the idle surge I replaced the intake, plenum, and TB gasket to make sure there was no leaks. I also replaced fuel injector o rings, and tips of the injectors while I was there and cleaned the IAC valve and all other sensors attached. My revs don't hang when not on the throttle at freeway speeds anymore, but still hangs when coming to a stop, it stays about 2000 then decays to a normal idle. I did order a new IAC to see if that will fix the surge, I have noticed the surge when starting the car as well, it just sounds like it revs higher when it starts.
The only other related electrical issue I have is a bad taillight ground or something similar because I have been told it is periodically dim or just out when I am driving. Surely that wouldn't be the culprit for my problems right? but I know I should fix it.
OBD2 Codes I have.
#1 P0300 - Random Misfire across all cylinders
#2 High voltage on bank 2 sensor (I don't have a cat)
#3 One for the EGR (I haven't added the resistor since I did the EGR block off well before all of these issues.)
All of these issues combined really leads me to believe the ECU is going out. Back in June when I was having the majority of the charging problems I did try to read the voltage on pins related to the alternator on the ECU, they had proper voltage, but I was using a 97 wiring diagram which doesn't have the same pinout as a 96 right?
I know there is a lot of information in there, as well as a lot of questions. Any help, guidance or assistance is greatly appreciated, thank you all for your time.