1000hp 1g MONSTER!!!

[TSicktalon]

twicks still posts regularly and just made 1004 a month or two ago.

 

[WES_393]

Is there even anyone on this site with over 800hp? Let alone 1000hp??

Handfuls. Moderator twicks69 just busted 1000hp not too long ago. Most guys at that level just don't post very often, or don't mention their accomplishments much.

Hey Landspeed, didn't you hit 67lb/min on a .55 bep, dsm flanged housing?

I'm currently flowing a little over 60lbs out of my bolt-on H1E and not even close to the turbos limits (just out of fuel ). But shh, let people keep thinking a bolt-on HX40 is nothing more than an oversized 20g...

 

[LandSpeed-DSM]

Let's not forget all the folks who never update their info or file for the dyno challenge...

Biglady's truck with relatively small changes could make a lot more if he cared to simply by winding out one or two thousand rpm more on those S3's and big ass hotside. (I run the same Turbo/Cam setup.. its good for >10k rpm) Stock IM, Stock Head/TB etc.. Perfect as it those and cool as hell, sounds rowdy.

Hey Landspeed, didn't you hit 67lb/min on a .55 bep, dsm flanged housing?

I did yes, confirmed with a known good Evo 8 MAS. It was usually closer to the 65lb/min mark unless it was a nice cool night.

Car wasn't dyno'd, but ~2700 or so pounds with me in it, some fuel and FWD 5MT Laser was good for ~1.3x - 1.5x sec 80-100mph on that turbo if I remember correctly.

I picked up a lot of power in the larger housings though. I can't remember if the setup managed a 1.4x sec in the .55 housing or not. It was definitely in the 1.3s in the big T4 housing.

Fun fact: That was probably done on 245mm Blizzak snow tires

This guy hasn't even been here to reply since he posted this build thread. He's in for a surprise that's like one of my bosses at work. I told him I have an eclipse and he goes on telling me he used to build them in the 90's claiming he could make 1000hp with 2k! I said dude your on crack! And gave him my thoughts on which the he had no reply for.

Is there even anyone on this site with over 800hp? Let alone 1000hp??

Yes.

Handfuls. Moderator twicks69 just busted 1000hp not too long ago. Most guys at that level just don't post very often, or don't mention their accomplishments much.



I'm currently flowing a little over 60lbs out of my bolt-on H1E and not even close to the turbos limits (just out of fuel ). But shh, let people keep thinking a bolt-on HX40 is nothing more than an oversized 20g...

Even the cast 60/86 Holset comp wheels look like they may be able to edge out my old 59/81 ETT Borg.

 

[jayson427]

So very few guys make over 800hp Was my point. I know it's possible but how many average guy make that kind of power? Going from a 400hp motor to 1000hp is crazy. Never heard of it that's all.

 

[92AWDHX40]

Yeah I watched tim in ohio that was some nice passes.

 

[boost97gst]

Ethanol (E85/E98) is alcohol. Do you mean methanol? It's not absolutely necessary, but where you would have to increase delivery capability by ~50% on E98 you basically have to double your gasoline system to run Methanol pure.

Several 4 digit cars on Ethanol though.

Yea, methanol. My bad

 

[frosh29]

Really, all it takes is money.

Before you all go and kill me for saying that... anyone can buy the parts to do it, and the upgrade path is mentioned on this site, if you read...a lot!

You can hire someone to put the proven parts together.

Finally, tuning can be bought too... there are plenty of people who know how to tune and will gladly do so for a price.

So, if he has the time and money, I think it can be done even with limited knowledge...The most important piece here is $$$$$$ (which I don't have enough of).

After all that though, I think the part-out comment is correct and would hedge my bets on that happening in this case, no offense. 1K HP is a lot of power. Keeping that kind of power tamed is going to be very difficult and expensive.

However, I would be the first to bow if the OP makes it to that goal. So, good luck sir!

(WES: You're damn right about the Holset's BTW. I'm running mine at 15 PSI ATM, but was running it at 30 which was down right scary. My DSM was faster than my Kawi 636)...

-Scott

Sorry to double post...but Colt... I'm still laughing at your reply...

 

[LandSpeed-DSM]

The theory is pretty simple. Pick how much torque (cylinder pressure) you are willing to subject the engine to. From there figure out at what engine speed you need to make that torque at to hit you power goal. Now pick a cam that is alive at that rpm. Now pick a turbo that can supply enough air at that RPM using an assumed VE and PR.

Now pick the fuel and fuel system to support it, drivetrain that can deal with the power and RPM, etc.

Execution and ownership is completely different.

Really, all it takes is money.

You could take a blank check to Magnus, and receive a turnkey 1000HP car. An inexperienced owner/driver will not keep it in one piece for long.

Whether it's a failure from maintenance or a crash.. you can't just throw money at a 500HP/liter "street" car and keep it alive. You need to know what you are doing.

 

[TSicktalon]

Frosh's point is simply that you 'can' have a 1000hp car with little personal headache, if you throw enough $$$ at it.

Will it be fun, safe, useful? not at all. But you can brag.

 

[Hillala]

i'm sitting at 500hp with my awd setup, if I want any more power from it we're talking crazy amounts of cash... (that and the fact I hit the goal I set for myself, years ago, when I started this.) I'll be the first to tell you that car can and will scare the holy shit out of you if you don't know how to handle it. 1000hp.... tiwce what I have...I'd love to have a go at that much power but no way in hell do I want something like that.

I've reached my goal and I hope this guy can too, Just be careful and understand what you're getting into. Even if you have the money and time or even pay someone to build the car to 1kbhp, it can easily take your life. Our cars have no feeling or remorse for what they do... That's what makes them so badass, gentlemen.

 

[miliman13]

I think you guys scared the op away...

But seriously ,, 1000,HP ,, we have all been busting knuckles , blowing engines ,and right down destroying and rebuilding these cars/engines. But that much power is not simply achieved with money, but with pain , disappointments, and catastrophic failures. , like many of you, i know what I'm talking about.

But i say make it to 500, then push to 600, and inch more each time,,,,, until.........

 

[boost97gst]

Like LSDSM said, 500hp/L is inherently unreliable as ####. Thats a full blown, no BS, 100% RACE motor that will need a rebuild or new parts every few thousand miles. It can not last long. Its impossible. You cant have that much out of so little and get any reasonable longevity.

This is the guy in the other thread(cant remember now) that said if youre running injectors 1600cc and up you need new injector wires to handle the extra load. I called BS. He wasnt referring to fuel pump wires but the actual injector wires, to be clear.

But hey, if you want to run 8ga wire injector to the ecu and to the injector 12v constant, be my guest. It cant hurt anything but sure does seem unnecessary.

 

[buddahboost]

There are members in the 9's with a T3 HX40...it has to take skill to drive something that killer

A crate motor from Magnus is all the OP needs. $$$

I see lots of tuning sessions!

 

[Archer Fabrications]

There is only one member in the 9s with hx40 and hes not at 1000 hp.

The hx40 will most likely never break 600hp for a lot of members honestly.
It's a great turbo but it's far from magic, I'm shooting to be the first 2g with an hx40 to hit a 9 second run. But ive got a little ways to go, picking up cory bower's rota's and hoosiers, and getting some new cams from BC, and major weight reduction, i think it's doable.


What people forget is all the saftey shit needed for a car that fast, i dont even habe a cage yet. Lol. And I'm illeagal for my ET, if you want 1000hp easy pick up fp super 99, hope you have everything to support it.

Someone asked does anyone ere even make 800-1000hp? Yes but most are sponsored, endless budget shop cars with years and years of experience ( Magnus, boostin, STM, shep, buschur, hollands performance, english racing etc..), . Very few that making that sort of power are individuals out of their own wallets.

 

[LandSpeed-DSM]

The FP 99HTZ, hell of a snail that it is, still won't make it easy. "Only" rated for 103lbs/min. Maxing out compressor wheels is tough business. I've managed to reach the choke flow on a 14B and the S200sx so far, it was not easy.. Both took a lot of trial and error.

I hope to apply those lessons to this HX52, and then once more with whatever GT45 or S400sx I move to after that. It could take years.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

Good luck landspeed!

Assuming you do max out the hx52, I'll be comming to you for advice, my 52 is still just sittin on my shelf all shiny waiting for new bearings and oil seals. ive been lazy ordering the parts. Havent decided weather i should give it a shot to machine for a .70AR hot side, or if i should move on to an FP super 94 i dont really wanna ditch t3 atthis point since I'm only a few months on it so far, I'll probably keep it, t3 is nice.

 

[biglady112]

I am one of those individuals doing it out of my own wallet. It is experience that has allowed me to succeed at this point. Something I have been working at since high school to achieve.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

I am one of those individuals doing it out of my own wallet. It is experience that has allowed me to succeed at this point. Something I have been working at since high school to achieve.

People like you are awesome!

Is GAstroker an individual out of his wallet as well? Or is he sponsored?

 

[biglady112]

He might have a little help, but to the best of my knowledge he is a grassroots guy like myself. That is why you only see and hear so much from his car. Hard on the wallet when you are in that kind of arena.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

He might have a little help, but to the best of my knowledge he is a grassroots guy like myself. That is why you only see and hear so much from his car. Hard on the wallet when you are in that kind of arena.

Uh ya! It's hard on the wallet just trying to get my car to hook .

Seeing mr peppers in the holset results thread hitting a 10.0 at 132 @ 33psi on an hx35 pisses me off . Damn you 1g auto cars. Smaller turbos at lower boost reaching the same traps as me with my hx40 at 35.6psi something is definitely wrong here .

 

[LandSpeed-DSM]

No sponsors either, yet.. I started saving for this project my freshman year of college.

Need some results first. Looking like I may get this thing on the road as or just after all the local tracks close up shop till spring

 

[Archer Fabrications]

No sponsors either, yet.. I started saving for this project my freshman year of college.

Need some results first. Looking like I may get this thing on the road as or just after all the local tracks close up shop till spring

I got a sponsor! But nothin major....yet BC 276/276 cams. No full motor builds or fp turbos free yet .

 

[boost97gst]

You got a sponsor Urban??? Thats fn awesome. Even if its nothing big its still a big deal to most of us. Congrats buddy.
You want better ETs? Ditch that 3rd pedal.......

 

[Archer Fabrications]

You got a sponsor Urban??? Thats fn awesome. Even if its nothing big its still a big deal to most of us. Congrats buddy.
You want better ETs? Ditch that 3rd pedal.......

I'm NOT about to go auto, I'll set up NLTS

 

[Slow95gsx]

The FP 99HTZ, hell of a snail that it is, still won't make it easy. "Only" rated for 103lbs/min. Maxing out compressor wheels is tough business. I've managed to reach the choke flow on a 14B and the S200sx so far, it was not easy.. Both took a lot of trial and error.

I hope to apply those lessons to this HX52, and then once more with whatever GT45 or S400sx I move to after that. It could take years.

I'm putting one of the 99's on my car, I currently have a cast wheel GT4202R. Its never been on a dyno, but mph vs weight says its currently just over 1000 whp. So hopefully it will run atleast the same mph, just with a better et To the OP, good luck, its a long road.