Will a 2g Dejon Intake work on a 1g?

[dsmcoder]

Will a 3" 2g Dejon intake work on a 1g with a 16g turbo. I found just the pipe with nothing else on it for sale at a good price. If it will work what will I need to buy to make it work?

 

[minimoose]

You'll need reducers for the turbo end and if the dejon pipe is shaped for the 2g maf it will be a pain unless your running the 2g maf.

 

[lilsam]

also depends on how long the intake is, cause i have a hard intake off a 2g on my 90 and the filter some times knocks the rod from the light motor off the light

 

[minimoose]

also depends on how long the intake is, cause i have a hard intake off a 2g on my 90 and the filter some times knocks the rod from the light motor off the light

I dont have this problem but im runnin a BBK funny shapped filter. Fits tight but looks nice.

 

[CrawlinZX14]

If your pipe is to long, why not just cut it down by an inch or half an inch and get the clearance u need? A 2g tube will work just fine so long as you have a 2g maf. Otherwise you need to make some modifications to the tube, and it would be easier at that point to just build one yourself. I may have a 1g dejon pipe forsale soon too however. I am swapping to a 2g maf system this weekend with a hard pipe and what not, so my 1g dejon pipe will be useless for me. PM me if your interested. I will get some pix of it after I pull it off tomorrow. Its a direct bolt on for the OEM turbo as it sits right now.

 

[dsmcoder]

I'm not planning on using a 2g maf, so is there anyway to modify it to work?

 

[CrawlinZX14]

if u have a 2g maf, then u just need a reducer to connect it to ## turbo

 

[kchaazz]

I'm not planning on using a 2g maf, so is there anyway to modify it to work?

^^ Then its not worth fooling with. I will tell you why. You will not get a 2G pipe on the 1G maf- there just isnt any room. Besides, even if you WERE going to use a 2G maf, by the time you put the maf on the pipe and get the adapter plate to use an open style filter with it, it will BARELY fit, even with the shortest filter you can get from the parts store, especially on the 90-91 cars which have the popup headlight hardware right where the filter needs to sit. I personally have used a 2G pipe on my 90 and even with the shorty filter, I had to cut about 1.5" from the turbo side of the pipe for it to BARELY fit. This is why places like Dejon make pipes specifically for 1G cars with 2G mafs, or 1G mafs. Just find one of the Dejon pipes for 1G maf if you dont want to use the 2G unit, but I must say that the 1G maf is definitely inferior to the 2G and does become a restriction when modding the car, so in my opinion, if you plan on modifying the car past the "Stage 1" point, why not buy an intake to accomodate the 2G maf and install this now instead of getting a 1G pipe only to buy the other one later? Of course, if you dont have any of the mods listed in our tech guide in the stage 1 section, an intake isnt going to net you any gains and the money can easily be spent elsewhere for better benefits

 

[dsmcoder]

^^ Then its not worth fooling with. I will tell you why. You will not get a 2G pipe on the 1G maf- there just isnt any room. Besides, even if you WERE going to use a 2G maf, by the time you put the maf on the pipe and get the adapter plate to use an open style filter with it, it will BARELY fit, even with the shortest filter you can get from the parts store, especially on the 90-91 cars which have the popup headlight hardware right where the filter needs to sit. I personally have used a 2G pipe on my 90 and even with the shorty filter, I had to cut about 1.5" from the turbo side of the pipe for it to BARELY fit. This is why places like Dejon make pipes specifically for 1G cars with 2G mafs, or 1G mafs. Just find one of the Dejon pipes for 1G maf if you dont want to use the 2G unit, but I must say that the 1G maf is definitely inferior to the 2G and does become a restriction when modding the car, so in my opinion, if you plan on modifying the car past the "Stage 1" point, why not buy an intake to accomodate the 2G maf and install this now instead of getting a 1G pipe only to buy the other one later? Of course, if you dont have any of the mods listed in our tech guide in the stage 1 section, an intake isnt going to net you any gains and the money can easily be spent elsewhere for better benefits

Well I bought ecmlink with the speed density setup so I don't know if I can run a 2g maf also?

 

[agentorange313]

Well I bought ecmlink with the speed density setup so I don't know if I can run a 2g maf also?

You can change how you tune with ECMlink, you have to option to run a 1g, 2g 3g/EVO MAS or speed density. Once you open ecmlink on your laptop you can change the settings. You cant run both, its one or the other. Since you ordered speed density with ECMlink, did you also get a MAP sensor and a Air Inlet temp sensor?

The intake pipe will work, the fit is right though, the 1g engine bay is different. You will need a shorter filter if you use a 2g MAS. Check my pictures, you will see I used a short KN filter for a 4.5 inch MAS adapter. Its really short and just fits in my engine bay.

goodluck

 

[dsmcoder]

Yes, I'm getting a map and iat sensor with it. Is it possible just to not put a maf sensor in there at all sense I'm going speed density?

 

[agentorange313]

You can change how you tune with ECMlink, you have to option to run a 1g, 2g 3g/EVO MAS or speed density. Once you open ecmlink on your laptop you can change the settings. You cant run both, its one or the other. Since you ordered speed density with ECMlink, did you also get a MAP sensor and a Air Inlet temp sensor?

The intake pipe will work, the fit is right though, the 1g engine bay is different. You will need a shorter filter if you use a 2g MAS. Check my pictures, you will see I used a short KN filter for a 4.5 inch MAS adapter. Its really short and just fits in my engine bay.

goodluck

^^^this

You will need to set up your car with either Speed Density or a MAS system.

 

[dsmcoder]

Okay but sense I am going to be running with speed density can I just put a filter on pipe with no mas or maf so I can have the clearance for it to fit?

 

[92AWDHX40]

Or get a pipe modify it to make it work with your set up, going sd, easy to customize your own piping, i did less than 30 for the set up. Especically if you dont need a mas if your using sd, are you dead set on making that pipe fit?

 

[dsmcoder]

Well I either want to make it fit or trade it to someone for a 1g dejon.

 

[agentorange313]

you can DIY and make it work or trade it.

The DIY path would be just the 2g intake with a 4 inch filter to fit over, as I am sure you know the 2g intake has a oval mouth:

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Now as far as it fitting, I dont think it will, it looks too long to fit in the 1g engine bay. You can also trim the intake. I trimmed my Dejon intake 1/4 inches where the inlet is, I had trouble fitting everything with that short filter. Take some measurements, see if you need to trim the intake. I am sure you can get it to work, just a little thinking and elbow grease.

Also if you are running speed density, you can vent you blow to atmosphere, if its a 2g intake it might have a recirculation port that needs to be capped off if you vent to atmosphere.

edit: Just wondering how long is the 2g mas? Without it having to have the MAS, there might be enough space to fit the filter that is show above

 

[dsmcoder]

I think it might be possible, but I don't want to vent to atmosphere. Would I have to with this setup?

 

[agentorange313]

With SD you can either vent to atmosphere or recirculate.

Like I said before, it depends if the 2g intake has a recirculation tube. If it does, you can recirculate using that tube or cap it off and vent to atmosphere.

 

[CrawlinZX14]

If your going SD, then why the hell would u recirculate? Your map sensor will be attached to your intake mani, and your AIT will be inline. No need for a MAF anymore, toss it out. Get an S bent pipe and put a filter on it. No issues with clearance on that 2g intake pipe and an oval filter because the maf will not be there adding the extra 8-10 inches or whatever. So you will be golden. I just did my 2g maf install on a 1g dejon pipe with a coupler for transition until I can find a better pipe to swap into it. Look on ebay for a 1g hard pipe for your intake. All its purpose will be after your SD is to funnel air into your turbo. At which point who cares about anything other than functionality. You could take some stainless pipe and weld it up to make what you need. You could attach a filter directly to your turbo at that point even if u had the clearance around the J pipe. If your SD then you have no use for a maf. Its only a restriction at that point.

 

[dsmcoder]

Okay sweet, so I can vent a blow off valve to atmosphere with sd without having to tune anything? Also what the best place to get a filter for the 2g filter for a dejon pipe?

 

[CrawlinZX14]

Those are really a preference deal there. U can get them on ebay, autozone, pretty much anywhere. All u need is a filter for a 95-99 eclipse or talon turbo car. Any of them should do the trick. And you have to tune for SD anyway, but there is no reason to tune for a vented BOV since SD is based on your air intake temp sensor and your MAP (manifold absolute pressure) sensor. Among some other sensors. So the air is measured inside the intake and not what flows thru the maf. So if your venting to atmosphere it will happen before the TB and thus no need to tune for it. Have you done your research for these upgrades? Because you dont really seem to know enough about these types of things to properly do this. You seem a little lost. I mean no disrespect, but you have a lot of very basic questions and seem to be very scattered about what your doing here.

 

[dsmcoder]

No I'm a noob at this stuff but I am willing to learn so I have to start somewhere.

 

[92AWDHX40]

Contact dejon tool for air filter specs.

 

[dsmcoder]

I tried contacting Dejon and they do not sell a filter that would fit directly on the end of the pipe. I've been looking but so far no luck. Do you guys know of any filter that would fit directly on my 2g dejon intake pipe since I'll be running SD?

 

[kchaazz]

You should be able to put a 4" round filter onto the pipe; the rubber can conform- we use round couplers there to hook the maf to the pipe all the time One thing I will mention is that Im pretty sure that ECMLINK V3 has a "mapping" function for speed density which lets you use a maf to map out your VE while just driving the car, at which point you can then remove the maf and plug in the map and temp sensor. This makes an initial baseline tune on speed density much easier.

Edit: Ive got a 4" round filter at home and will see if it will go diretly onto the 2G intake pipe when I get home from work, if youre interested.