which turbo: big 16g or xspower to4e?

[97Boosted]

so basically i bought my car as a shell and it came with a big 16 g on it. and in the trunk came a new manifold and xspower to4e. i read a review that someone did on the xspower turbo and he said it was good but the manifold was shit, i do not know what brand the manifold is but i plan on using it.

basically 2 options:

big16g

TO4E

????

thanks for ALL help

 

[Killa_dsm]

Honestly I would stick with the big16g. Many people have had bad luck with ebay turbo's so your better off running the 16g.

Thats my opinion.

 

[95gst16g]

Yeah I would just stick with the big 16g.But.....If the 16g is a fake ebay one then you might as well try the other turbo.But if the big16g is real just use that.

 

[95420A]

I too would stick with the 16g as long as it's real. Alot of people can vouch for its performance and reliability.

 

[JayRolla]

Thats wierd. Usually the manifolds work pretty well and the turbos suck. Since you have the turbo it could be a good test to see how well it works. I would through in on just to see what it can do. Then give us a review on it.

 

[97Boosted]

i was thinking about the review thing cause shit it was free. but i also dont want the turbo affecting anything else.

on the build we pulled the motor and there is no piston, and the balance shaft is working its way out of the block pictures are coming.
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also i found an ACT flywheel, along with ACt clutch kit.
in the head i found, HKS cam gears, roller rockers, and cower springs and retainers!

(for those who dont know i bought this gst blown, with everything in mods list for $1900.)

 

[97Boosted]

i also will be needing to replace the clutch and i dont know how much hp this thing will be putting out, could someone with similar mods guesstimate? i think ill be going with ACT just not sure which one.

thanks

 

[Boosted gsx]

I actually have the xspower Big 16G and mine has 22,000 hard miles on it and very very little shaft play. I would go 16G and for the clutch Id probably go ACT 2600 6 puck sprung unless its a daily.

 

[97Boosted]

i will be daily. i could take the 2600 if thats whats best. i just want something good and that will grab nicely

 

[Boosted gsx]

If its a daily I would definetly go with a disk. Puck's are really harsh and no fun to drive around town in my opinion.

 

[97Boosted]

true. mite just call them up and ask what would be best for the setup..?

 

[91 TSi GP]

I have the ACT 2600 with the disc and i love it. No chatter, grabs strong. Great Piece

 

[Boosted gsx]

Yea thats what I did. Nice guys and helpful. ACT Phone: (661) 940-7555

 

[StarTurboEclips]

I think a little more info would help here.... like What are you building the car for? ie: dd or track? What size/trim is the T04e; is it a hybrid t3/t4? generally speaking, with the 16g, you will get faster spool, and better response. With the T04e, it will take longer to spool, however when boost comes in, it will come in much stronger, and it is capable of more power overall. in the end, it depends on what you are looking for in your car. As far as xspower is concerned, they are hit or miss. Some people have had great success with their turbos, other people have had multiple issues. worst case scenario, you have to rebuild the t04e with new garret internals. just my 2 cents.

 

[Boosted gsx]

he said its a daily and sounds like the 16g is the way he wants to go. You would know this if you read the whole thread

 

[StarTurboEclips]

I did read. I apologize for missing the part where he said "daily".... please forgive me..... now go have a cookie and be merry. It doesnt look like he has made a decision about the turbo yet, just the clutch..... nope he hasn't. Also, please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the 16g about maxed out at 400whp?

 

[Boosted gsx]

Yea 350 is common..... 387 is the highest Ive ever seen but their still capable of 11 flat in 1st gens and 12's in second gen's.

 

[No_Skillz]

300whp is the goal of most people with 16g turbos. You can definitely achieve more, but the cost of that is huge and it would be cheaper to get a bigger turbo to begin with.

If you are shooting for around 300, an ACT 2100 will be fine. Pedal pressure is near stock and it'll hold well into the 300s.

 

[97Boosted]

I did read. I apologize for missing the part where he said "daily".... please forgive me..... now go have a cookie and be merry. It doesnt look like he has made a decision about the turbo yet, just the clutch..... nope he hasn't. Also, please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the 16g about maxed out at 400whp?

im not limiting my car to the "daily" status i will most likely see some small autox events, more of a weekend warrior all week haha. i have a truck so im not worried about down time .

my initial plan is to use the t04E, which is a hybrid T3/T4 (sorry forgot to mention), i want to see how well it works and will also be able to review it. if it turns to be junk i can slap the 16g back on and rebuild it and make it good.

i like the "now go have a cookie and be merry"
play nice

 

[StarTurboEclips]

I hope the t3/t4 works out for you. i love my 50 trim. Boost comes in strong, like a rocket ship. You should be able to hit around 300hp at 15 psi. Let us know how it goes.

 

[Hardin]

16G is the way to go..

-Hardin

 

[97Boosted]

I hope the t3/t4 works out for you. i love my 50 trim. Boost comes in strong, like a rocket ship. You should be able to hit around 300hp at 15 psi. Let us know how it goes.

thats the plan cant wait to try it out

 

[97Boosted]

I have the ACT 2600 with the disc and i love it. No chatter, grabs strong. Great Piece

just ordered the ACT MaXX Xtreme Street Clutch Kit, from extreme psi. didnt say "2600" but im pretty sure thats what it is

https://www.extremepsi.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=18215&cat=1332&page=1

^^theres the link^^ i got the Maxx Extreme to get a powerful clutch i dont want it wearing out after only a little while,i can deal with some extra pedal pressure.

also with valves i have no idea whats good and the deal on the sizes so help would be awsome.
thanks

 

[JayRolla]

Ive never even heard of that clutch but it says it will handle 490lbtq. May be a heavy pressure plate and need some leg work. I would have gone with a 2600 with a 4 or 6 puck unsprung. They are really not that hard to drive at all and once broken in they are fine.