What you think of these wheels?

[HyperGSX]

Ehh im scared to put any expensive wheels on my car considering my last ones got stolen

 

[Flash]

Try some Rays Engineering lug nuts. One lug on each wheel will have like 7 or 8 sides to it and comes with the special socket. I know for a fact you can't get those sockets at your local hardware store. The thing is they all look the same. Don't get the regular wheel locks that you can get akey to at any tire store. Spend the $120 or so on the Rays lug nuts and be safe.
But always remember, if someone wants something bad enough, nothing will stop them.

 

[BoostedinSoFla]

Why not get some nice quality wheels?
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Why everytime a thread pops up about somebody wanting new wheels you always post some shit about "get quality expensive wheels" or thinking that expensive wheels are the only good looking ones out there? Some of us dsmer's are not rich and personally if I ever save $3k towards my car I'm definitely not buying wheels with it, that shit's going under my hood.

To the OP, do what you want man. If you dont have the cash to go splurge on some wheels just get some nice black wheels like you wanted for under $1000. I would never spend over $1000 on any set of wheels even if I was cakin'.

 

[InfiniteGSX]

Try some Rays Engineering lug nuts. One lug on each wheel will have like 7 or 8 sides to it and comes with the special socket. I know for a fact you can't get those sockets at your local hardware store. The thing is they all look the same. Don't get the regular wheel locks that you can get akey to at any tire store. Spend the $120 or so on the Rays lug nuts and be safe.
But always remember, if someone wants something bad enough, nothing will stop them.

Everyone in my lil car crew/club does that... not with Ray's lugs tho... But we go out and order 5 or 4 completely different sets of wheel lugs so every lug is totaly different. We've had too many things stolen recently. And we know some people that love to steal wheels, and cars! We house the keys to the lugs in my Garage. Well we did house them in my garage, now they are in one of our other guy's garage just to stay safe. Just a lil system we have.

Why everytime a thread pops up about somebody wanting new wheels you always post some shit about "get quality expensive wheels" or thinking that expensive wheels are the only good looking ones out there? Some of us dsmer's are not rich and personally if I ever save $3k towards my car I'm definitely not buying wheels with it, that shit's going under my hood.

To the OP, do what you want man. If you dont have the cash to go splurge on some wheels just get some nice black wheels like you wanted for under $1000. I would never spend over $1000 on any set of wheels even if I was cakin'.

I totaly agree! First off, yes the wheels you buy are what YOU WANT! Do not get what others tell you to get. I was just posting images of Wheel/Tire size.

Next, expensive wheels or not, they are all the same to me. I'm getting some wheels from Ray's cheap side called G-Games by Rays. They are cheap version of Rays/Volk wheels. Discount tire sells them...

The wheels you get are yours! So if you want a set of wheels that cost a grand or more EACH, Save up and get them! If not, keep searching and get wheels that you want, and want to spend money on! I know what I want, and that is exactly what I'm going to buy, weather they are expensive or not... It is my car and I'll do it up how I want. So you do the same.

There are ALOT of websites you can try, www.tirerack.com. I bought from them before! www.wheelmax.com, www.discounttire.com... plenty more!

 

[HyperGSX]

Yea so im gonna go with the tenzo's but i cant decide on 17's or 18's!!

 

[kmoore]

Silver is overplayed! Red car with Silver Rims, thats such a horrible cliche

kmoore

I will admit. Black on black looks bad ass, no doubt, but like I said it is way overplayed... And what is more overplayed then anything, is Red DSM's with black w/ polished lip wheels. That is overplayed more than anything.

 

[dsmpokolm]

Konig Hotswaps are still the nicest rims!!!

 

[InfiniteGSX]

I like Red car with Silver wheels more... Or more then anything if red is involved, Red car, Red Rim/Polished Lip!

 

[RedTurboEclipse]

black with polished lip on any car is played. Only a few cars can pull it off without making it look tacky, and over done.

 

[1512gvr4]

Why everytime a thread pops up about somebody wanting new wheels you always post some shit about "get quality expensive wheels" or thinking that expensive wheels are the only good looking ones out there? Some of us dsmer's are not rich and personally if I ever save $3k towards my car I'm definitely not buying wheels with it, that shit's going under my hood.

To the OP, do what you want man. If you dont have the cash to go splurge on some wheels just get some nice black wheels like you wanted for under $1000. I would never spend over $1000 on any set of wheels even if I was cakin'.

Because he knows the difference between quality and junk. Tenzo wheels and those other knock-offs are cheap for a reason, they are cheap quality. There's specific reasons why all the race cars in japan run volks, advans, work, ssr, etc. They are light and strong. Thats why you pay the money. DSMers and their cheapness. I am personally putting volks on my gvr4.

 

[BoostedinSoFla]

Because he knows the difference between quality and junk. Tenzo wheels and those other knock-offs are cheap for a reason, they are cheap quality. There's specific reasons why all the race cars in japan run volks, advans, work, ssr, etc. They are light and strong. Thats why you pay the money. DSMers and their cheapness. I am personally putting volks on my gvr4.

Who the hell cares what you put on your car? This thread was never about you dude, the original poster already made his decision.

I would NEVER spend $3000 on wheels. You think I don't know the difference between quality and junk? Of course I know that those more expensive wheels are reall good quality but I still wouldn't spend that much money on wheels. In case you didn't know, there are many good wheels out there that are not knockoffs and are way cheaper than Volks, Advans, Works etc...

 

[1stGenRocks]

there's a difference between spending 3k for a set of wheels for a car thats gonna stay on a smooth track and be locked in a garage overnight and paying 3k for wheels to go beat off the crappy roads most of us have to deal with and risk getting stolen. and dont even get me started on paying 120 bucks for lugnuts WTF

 

[Flash]

Who the hell cares what you put on your car? This thread was never about you dude, the original poster already made his decision.

I would NEVER spend $3000 on wheels. You think I don't know the difference between quality and junk? Of course I know that those more expensive wheels are reall good quality but I still wouldn't spend that much money on wheels. In case you didn't know, there are many good wheels out there that are not knockoffs and are way cheaper than Volks, Advans, Works etc...

I will educate you about wheel technology. Remember nice wheels don't always cost $3k. The Enkei RPF1 is a perfect wheel and would cost like $1200 a set.

Here is some information about wheels. Taken from Endlessusa.com Most of this is about Enkei/AME since they are importers for AME and AME is made by Enkei. But also relates to Rays Engineering products.


Fake and Knock-offs
"For awhile I've been wondering, how do alot of these cheap, knock-off wheels have JWL and VIA marks? How do they get approved? It turns out, many don't. What you see here is a fake sticker written in Japanese. When they produce the wheel, they simply incorporate the JWL and VIA logo marks into the mold and add a fake sticker to give it "legitimacy." I believe this was a Volk knock-off. Sneaky.

All companies officially registered with JAWA are given a registration number. AME's happens to be #202. So, from now on, if you see a wheel with the JWL and VIA marks, but you sense something wrong, look for the sticker on the back. Unfortunately, we've also seen fake copies of this sticker as well. How do we know? Someone complained about a defect and the number on the back indicated that it was an AME wheel. Turns out it wasn't. The sticker looked real and used our JAWA registration number, but it was in fact, a fake. Super sneaky."


So you may say what is a JAWA and JWL sticker?
-"Japanese Wheel Standards and Regulations for the Aftermarket

"The following information is a basic explanation of wheel testing and marking requirements for the Japanese after market. The JWL and VIA marks are required for all wheels being manufactured for the Japanese market. It is possible to sell wheels with only the JWL, but JAWA has been pressuring retail chains and shops to only carry products that have both marks/testing.

JAWA Japan Light Alloy Wheel Association
JAWA (Japan Light Alloy Wheel Association), is an organization made up of various wheel companies, and carries out research and technical studies concerning the manufacture, marketing and distribution of automotive light alloy wheels. These activities also include market and technical research aimed at developing new demand for industry products plus many other related activities. To achieve these objectives, JAWA aims to improve the quality of the Automobile Light Alloy Wheel and promotes liability of our product in the Automotive Aftermarket.

JWL Mark
Japan Light Alloy Wheel (JWL) Standard for Passenger Cars. The Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, and Transport requires that aluminum wheels for passenger cars (with 3, 5, and 7-number plates) sold in Japan bear the JWL mark. The JWL mark can be displayed on wheels that have passed the standard through a self-certification system."


-ISO 9000 Certified
"The Enkei manufacturing plant... is the ONLY wheel manufacturing plant in the world that is ISO 9000 certified. What does this mean? That there are probably less than 1 defect per million units produced. Basically it's to assure customers that suppliers can provide quality products and services. Basically, it's a quality management system intended to serve the needs of customers. ISO is recognized worldwide and can be used by Toyota, Honda, etc. to use in their evaluation of Enkei and their products."


-Wheel Technology
"ALL wheel manufacturers in Japan use only the highest grade aluminum ingots. But, along with Enkei's superior MAT technology, we know that Enkei blends a proprietary formula of additives to increase wheel strength, flexibility and stability. Enkei is currently in their 2nd generation of rim-rolling technology (wheel companies such as Enkei and RAYS continue to increase their know-how and technology always striving for something better). The world's largest automotive manufacturers (Toyota, Honda, Nissan, etc.) and F1 Racing teams have carefully selected Enkei wheels based upon overall quality and performance. OEM specifications are significantly more severe than testing conducted for aftermarket wheels and all AME wheels are produced under these same standards. The true value of Enkei's rigorous internal standards is confirmed by their complete dominance in the high-end OEM wheel market."


-Paint Quality
"Some specific examples that could be used is the paint quality between Enkei and other manufacturers. Although it takes a long time to get a new color approved, there are so many internal tests at Enkei that it can not be avoided.

Other manufacturing plants and especially the Chinese plants can kick out new colors every couple of weeks. This is convenient, but the wheels shouldn't be expected to be used for more than a couple of years and also in areas with snow will cause discoloring, etc.

ALL Enkei wheel paints are tested and approved under strict OEM testing procedures which are used in all aftermarket wheel products. The significance of this is that it is much more expensive to paint wheels using OEM grade paint. Others do not do this and continue to have issues with some of their paints after a few years since they do not have the extensive OEM/Race paint background as Enkei. Some of the paints by other manufacturers have been launched quickly and end up being claims later on.

Enkei will throw out paint after a period of time even though it is still useable by anyone else's standards. Kyoho has to argue with them since it happens with domestic market products. Each drum of paint costs about $xx,xxx.xx and makes over 10,000 wheels, but Enkei will toss it if Kyoho is not ordering within a fixed period of time."


-Water Quality?
"Enkei believes that the water used in the casting, manufacturing and machining processes is crucial in ensuring high quality wheels. Enkei has a separate water filtration facility at each plant to provide a consistent water standard throughout the entire manufacturing process. Filtration helps to eliminate much of the chemicals, minerals and other impurities that may lead to physical and cosmetic quality issues. Filtration eliminates the possibility of impurities inside the water that can clog the machinery, nozzles, etc. which are extensively used in aluminum alloy wheel production. It is an enormous cost to maintain the water filtration, but nonetheless a necessity in maintaining the overall quality for Enkei wheels."

So you may say "...3k for wheels to go beat off the crappy roads most of us have to deal with and risk getting stolen". I will say: Why spend money on something that is not JWL or JAWA certified, has crappy paint that will wear off after using them on a daily basis, and has no design incorporated in the wheel itself.

To establish so sort of credibility, I will say that I have owned many many sets of wheels. I have owned sets of $500 cheap wheels (first set) to nice Volks (most recent). I have owned Rays lesser line of wheels (G-Games) and wheels from Work. I haven't driven my Volks in the snow, but the others I have. I daily drove my car with the cheap $500 wheels and the G-Games. Guess what? The finish on the cheap wheels changed colors, the GGames never did. The finish on the cheap wheels was soooo soft, anything could knick it. I'm not tying to push people to go spend $3k on wheels, because you don't have to. I'm trying to educate people and make them aware of these things.

 

[Scrymerr]

I think some of you are getting jealous of the guys with nice wheels for no reason. They are just trying to encourage you to get some higher quality ones as they think it is worth it and you might too. Also, you can think outside the box when it comes to getting high quality wheels. Think of best bang for the buck, and also... craigslist! A friend of mine got 19" Volk GT-C I think they were for $1200 with Nitto 555R on them, and they were in perfect shape. I had a pair of cheap generic wheels once, and I was fine with them. I decided to get a different set which aren't even in the range with volk and work wheels. I do trust that they are better wheels than many of the others in their price range though. Chances are whatever wheel you get will probably be fine, but without trying to tell you to spend your live savings on some shoes for your car, I do recommend trying to work it out to get some 'decent' wheels.

 

[BoostedinSoFla]

You guys have it all wrong trying to educate me on wheels and shit.

I think some of you are getting jealous of the guys with nice wheels for no reason. They are just trying to encourage you to get some higher quality ones as they think it is worth it and you might too. Also, you can think outside the box when it comes to getting high quality wheels. Think of best bang for the buck, and also... craigslist! A friend of mine got 19" Volk GT-C I think they were for $1200 with Nitto 555R on them, and they were in perfect shape. I had a pair of cheap generic wheels once, and I was fine with them. I decided to get a different set which aren't even in the range with volk and work wheels. I do trust that they are better wheels than many of the others in their price range though. Chances are whatever wheel you get will probably be fine, but without trying to tell you to spend your live savings on some shoes for your car, I do recommend trying to work it out to get some 'decent' wheels.

Dude, nobody is jealous of anyone, in fact, I would rather see a car with nice wheels it's just that I would never spend that much on them. If I had the chance to pick some nice wheels (Volks, Advans, Works etc.) for a good price then hell yeah I would jump all over it. All be it, I'm the kinda guy who would do just fine with my GST stockers. My car is definitely not gonna be for show and will see it's way around the streets daily and down the drag strip on weekends. I would rather invest my money in some Micky thompson slicks and Weld track wheels to tell you the truth.

I will educate you about wheel technology. Remember nice wheels don't always cost $3k. The Enkei RPF1 is a perfect wheel and would cost like $1200 a set.

Here is some information about wheels. Taken from Endlessusa.com Most of this is about Enkei/AME since they are importers for AME and AME is made by Enkei. But also relates to Rays Engineering products.


Fake and Knock-offs
"For awhile I’ve been wondering, how do alot of these cheap, knock-off wheels have JWL and VIA marks? How do they get approved? It turns out, many don’t. What you see here is a fake sticker written in Japanese. When they produce the wheel, they simply incorporate the JWL and VIA logo marks into the mold and add a fake sticker to give it “legitimacy.” I believe this was a Volk knock-off. Sneaky.

All companies officially registered with JAWA are given a registration number. AME’s happens to be #202. So, from now on, if you see a wheel with the JWL and VIA marks, but you sense something wrong, look for the sticker on the back. Unfortunately, we’ve also seen fake copies of this sticker as well. How do we know? Someone complained about a defect and the number on the back indicated that it was an AME wheel. Turns out it wasn’t. The sticker looked real and used our JAWA registration number, but it was in fact, a fake. Super sneaky."


So you may say what is a JAWA and JWL sticker?
-"Japanese Wheel Standards and Regulations for the Aftermarket

"The following information is a basic explanation of wheel testing and marking requirements for the Japanese after market. The JWL and VIA marks are required for all wheels being manufactured for the Japanese market. It is possible to sell wheels with only the JWL, but JAWA has been pressuring retail chains and shops to only carry products that have both marks/testing.

JAWA Japan Light Alloy Wheel Association
JAWA (Japan Light Alloy Wheel Association), is an organization made up of various wheel companies, and carries out research and technical studies concerning the manufacture, marketing and distribution of automotive light alloy wheels. These activities also include market and technical research aimed at developing new demand for industry products plus many other related activities. To achieve these objectives, JAWA aims to improve the quality of the Automobile Light Alloy Wheel and promotes liability of our product in the Automotive Aftermarket.

JWL Mark
Japan Light Alloy Wheel (JWL) Standard for Passenger Cars. The Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, and Transport requires that aluminum wheels for passenger cars (with 3, 5, and 7-number plates) sold in Japan bear the JWL mark. The JWL mark can be displayed on wheels that have passed the standard through a self-certification system."


-ISO 9000 Certified
"The Enkei manufacturing plant... is the ONLY wheel manufacturing plant in the world that is ISO 9000 certified. What does this mean? That there are probably less than 1 defect per million units produced. Basically it’s to assure customers that suppliers can provide quality products and services. Basically, it’s a quality management system intended to serve the needs of customers. ISO is recognized worldwide and can be used by Toyota, Honda, etc. to use in their evaluation of Enkei and their products."


-Wheel Technology
"ALL wheel manufacturers in Japan use only the highest grade aluminum ingots. But, along with Enkei’s superior MAT technology, we know that Enkei blends a proprietary formula of additives to increase wheel strength, flexibility and stability. Enkei is currently in their 2nd generation of rim-rolling technology (wheel companies such as Enkei and RAYS continue to increase their know-how and technology always striving for something better). The world’s largest automotive manufacturers (Toyota, Honda, Nissan, etc.) and F1 Racing teams have carefully selected Enkei wheels based upon overall quality and performance. OEM specifications are significantly more severe than testing conducted for aftermarket wheels and all AME wheels are produced under these same standards. The true value of Enkei’s rigorous internal standards is confirmed by their complete dominance in the high-end OEM wheel market."


-Paint Quality
"Some specific examples that could be used is the paint quality between Enkei and other manufacturers. Although it takes a long time to get a new color approved, there are so many internal tests at Enkei that it can not be avoided.

Other manufacturing plants and especially the Chinese plants can kick out new colors every couple of weeks. This is convenient, but the wheels shouldn’t be expected to be used for more than a couple of years and also in areas with snow will cause discoloring, etc.

ALL Enkei wheel paints are tested and approved under strict OEM testing procedures which are used in all aftermarket wheel products. The significance of this is that it is much more expensive to paint wheels using OEM grade paint. Others do not do this and continue to have issues with some of their paints after a few years since they do not have the extensive OEM/Race paint background as Enkei. Some of the paints by other manufacturers have been launched quickly and end up being claims later on.

Enkei will throw out paint after a period of time even though it is still useable by anyone else’s standards. Kyoho has to argue with them since it happens with domestic market products. Each drum of paint costs about $xx,xxx.xx and makes over 10,000 wheels, but Enkei will toss it if Kyoho is not ordering within a fixed period of time."


-Water Quality?
"Enkei believes that the water used in the casting, manufacturing and machining processes is crucial in ensuring high quality wheels. Enkei has a separate water filtration facility at each plant to provide a consistent water standard throughout the entire manufacturing process. Filtration helps to eliminate much of the chemicals, minerals and other impurities that may lead to physical and cosmetic quality issues. Filtration eliminates the possibility of impurities inside the water that can clog the machinery, nozzles, etc. which are extensively used in aluminum alloy wheel production. It is an enormous cost to maintain the water filtration, but nonetheless a necessity in maintaining the overall quality for Enkei wheels."

So you may say "...3k for wheels to go beat off the crappy roads most of us have to deal with and risk getting stolen". I will say: Why spend money on something that is not JWL or JAWA certified, has crappy paint that will wear off after using them on a daily basis, and has no design incorporated in the wheel itself.

To establish so sort of credibility, I will say that I have owned many many sets of wheels. I have owned sets of $500 cheap wheels (first set) to nice Volks (most recent). I have owned Rays lesser line of wheels (G-Games) and wheels from Work. I haven't driven my Volks in the snow, but the others I have. I daily drove my car with the cheap $500 wheels and the G-Games. Guess what? The finish on the cheap wheels changed colors, the GGames never did. The finish on the cheap wheels was soooo soft, anything could knick it. I'm not tying to push people to go spend $3k on wheels, because you don't have to. I'm trying to educate people and make them aware of these things..

Good read, but most of this stuff I know already. My opinion about not buying expensive wheels is not meant to put down people with expensive wheels or like some other guy said above about being "cheap', it's just simply something that I would rather not do. I understand quality, R&D, Paint quality and all of that when it comes to making a quality set of wheels but I simply won't pay that much.

I love your car, and all the expensive parts that you put on (Volks & all the other expensive wheels that you've used, HKS everything, Shearer everything, crazy Zeal suspension, Stack dash and the list goes on) but just like how it's your car and you can mod it the way you like, same thing goes for me.

 

[unlmtdndeavor]

grant....we think on the same level.

nice wheels = seks

 

[RWKustoms]

Who the hell cares what you put on your car? This thread was never about you dude, the original poster already made his decision.

I would NEVER spend $3000 on wheels. You think I don't know the difference between quality and junk? Of course I know that those more expensive wheels are reall good quality but I still wouldn't spend that much money on wheels. In case you didn't know, there are many good wheels out there that are not knockoffs and are way cheaper than Volks, Advans, Works etc...

Ricky, I feel you on the "cheaper wheels can look good too" thing but most of these guys don't mind dropping crazy cash on wheels. You remember my first set of wheels.....18" HP Evos with the spokes powdercoated black and those wheels to me were quality wheels and I only paid $600 for them. They looked great, never stripped, weren't that heavy, never got bent when I ran over crazy potholes and shit, I kept them clean and I received tons of compliments without breaking my bank account. I see that you listed some of Flash's mod list and that in itself pretty much shows that this guy doesn't mind dropping crazy cash on his whip and that's why it's one of the best 2G's out there. If I also could get a great deal to get some nice Works, Advans etc. then I would definitely get them; even if I had the money to buy them new I still wouldn't pay that much. That's just my opinion and it has nothing to do with cheapness because my car has seen nothing but good quality parts.

 

[Flash]

To bring this back. This recently happened to a guy in the Skyline community. His Rota wheel failed at the track.

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[fulanititoo8198]

Wow imagine that happening on the highway or at high speeds.

 

[Eclipse98Spyder]

Well if he was at the track Im sure he was moving at a high rate of speed

 

[Zmann42087]

To the OP, I have the exact wheels you are looking at getting. 18"x7.5" Tenzo-R Mean 6 wheels in gloss black. Let me tell you... I love them. The fit & finish is perfect and I love how they look. Tenzo-R really makes some great wheels for the money.. no they don't have the "teh JDM hotness" appeal of Volks or Advans but they look good and perform well.

Here are some pics. I tried to post a couple different angles so you can get an idea how they look.

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