What valve springs you use?

[clipto]

Me and my friend have been talking and are curious what valve springs most everyone is using mostly people using 272 cams. Let me know thanks.

 

[dexterholland04]

I've used stock, Evo 8 and Manley singles.

Stock Springs/Retainers and Delta HKS 272 Regrinds -> 7700-7800 before I started to noticeably float valves

Evo 8 Springs/Retainers and Delts HKS 272 Regrinds -> 8300-8400 and made good power (no floating)

Evo 8 Springs/Retainers and Delta Kelford 272 (On new billets) -> 8800-8900 and really made power. This was as high as I took (and would take) Evo 8 springs and retainers

Manley Singles/Manley Ti Retainers/Delta Kelford 272 (On new billets) -> 9000 is as high as I want to take it...being a stock block and all. I think they will make good power all the way up to there.

If you want the best springs, Kiggly beehives or Ferrea Duals IMO. I like the Manley singles, if you're not revving to the moon and want a good spring for a reasonable price.

 

[crash89]

Great info^^^

Really depends on what brand 272s you get/have.. BCs or HKS 272s would be ok with stock but I wouldnt suggest revving past 7500. I have BC272s and have BC springs and retainers, revved to 8k this last season.. Of course Kelfords will need a more aggressive spring due to the larger lift/duration.

 

[jayson427]

i always hear people running those bee hives? i run crower in mine tho

 

[LandSpeed-DSM]

Ran shimmed Manley's on a custom "274" high lift/aggressive ramp cam from a V8 shop in Michigan. This was done on a setup running high 30s boost and 9250rpm redline.

Now on Kiggly's updated beehives on GSC S3s

 

[AZBoostin]

Running GSC Beehives With Kelford 272's

 

[007jimmy]

HKS singles with HKS 264/272s although many people have run stock springs with HKS cams.

 

[e85_4g63]

Delta H272's with stock springs (7500rpm rev limiter) no issues since 2010.

 

[talonalex92]

BC springs/retainers and Crower 280s. Cant really speak rpm wise. The 2.4 doesn't rev too high.

 

[slammedndirty]

GSC Power-Division 4G63T EVO 1-9 Stage 3 Beehive Valve Springs w/ Titanium Retainer Valvetrain Kit - Modern Automotive Performance

i love em

 

[turbolover10]

I've used stock, Evo 8 and Manley singles.

Stock Springs/Retainers and Delta HKS 272 Regrinds -> 7700-7800 before I started to noticeably float valves

Evo 8 Springs/Retainers and Delts HKS 272 Regrinds -> 8300-8400 and made good power (no floating)

Evo 8 Springs/Retainers and Delta Kelford 272 (On new billets) -> 8800-8900 and really made power. This was as high as I took (and would take) Evo 8 springs and retainers

Manley Singles/Manley Ti Retainers/Delta Kelford 272 (On new billets) -> 9000 is as high as I want to take it...being a stock block and all. I think they will make good power all the way up to there.

If you want the best springs, Kiggly beehives or Ferrea Duals IMO. I like the Manley singles, if you're not revving to the moon and want a good spring for a reasonable price.

What he said! I'm going with the kiggly beehives with the kelford 272's and HKS cam gears, can't wait!

 

[buddy3824]

Im running Manley with Titanium retainers. with SIM 275s. I've only revved to 8400. not sure what the max would be..

 

[KYNgsx]

New setup is Kiggly behives + Kelford 272s.

Before that, stock springs + BC 272s worked good up to 8000 rpm.

 

[dexterholland04]

Im running Manley with Titanium retainers. with SIM 275s. I've only revved to 8400. not sure what the max would be..

9000 rpm no problem. With Kelford 272's, I will take mine up there. Another RedJack Racing car (Jason's Grey 2g runs them too) and he takes his car to 9400-9500 regularly. Drew (BrokenTSI) had the same setup I run as well, and I know he saw 9800-9900 rpm a few times

 

[buddy3824]

9000 rpm no problem. With Kelford 272's, I will take mine up there. Another RedJack Racing car (Jason's Grey 2g runs them too) and he takes his car to 9400-9500 regularly. Drew (BrokenTSI) had the same setup I run as well, and I know he saw 9800-9900 rpm a few times

HOLY CRAP. on the stock bottom end I think not. but thats awesome, I had no idea they were capable of that. Thanks so much for informing me.

 

[FCR]

I've been using BC springs and retainers for 4 years in my motor without any issue

 

[blizz99]

evo springs & retainers- h272 to 8500 and k272 to 7k. I'm sure they can go higher but never pushed it.

 

[VetoJuice]

I ran kiggly beehives with kelford 272's on my last setup.. I loved it.
Though I have seen guys around here run them with evo springs/retainers just fine.
Personally I think that's pushing it with kelfords which is why I went with my setup.

 

[viperlp01]

I think some of you would be surprised at the power increase if you upgraded springs. I floated Manley singles w/ Ti retainers at 8K RPM @ 37psi. There is obvious wear on the retainer clips. Why skimp out on such an important piece of hardware.

 

[blizz99]

I plan on getting kiggly or gsc beehives once I get the money for the peace of mind.

 

[BogusSVO]

I install BC1100 w/stock retainers, more times than I can count.

BC1100 with Ti retainers.

Ferrea Behives, Kiggley Behives, BeeMads.
ST duals.

The spring choice needs to be based off cam selection, for the best match.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/341209-4g63t-valve-spring-info.html

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/cyl...omparison-stock-hks-bc1100.html#post152945194

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/cyl...2-evo-viii-stock-dsm-manley-brian-crower.html