weith1111
20+ Year Contributor
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- Aug 7, 2002
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Wheaton,
Illinois
Let's say "hypothetically" you were running 550's with a supra pump and an AFC, and were running sooooo rich and the car felt underpowered (like slower than before you did all this work), you went to a reputable shop and said "I need an AFPR, it seems to be a part of the fuel system I'm missing, and my car is running horrible without it."
And the reply you got was "That's wrong, anyone telling you that is just trying to sell you some crap to make a buck, I'm running XXXXcc injectors on a stock FPR and have done tuning on numerous other cars without them, it's not necessary."
Your obvious reply would include things like, "other people say" and "isn't the fuel pump overrunning the stock FPR" and "the car is running really rich."
To which you are asked "how do you know it's running rich, oh by the pointless AF gauge that shows COMPLETELY rich at WOT? That this is crap too," you hear from this guy.
How do I pay them to tune my car, believing an AFPR is a necessity, but they/he/she thinks it is not? Especially if they are going to tune from wideband 02!?
I don't want to get my car back with it no better than it is now.
Please feel free to move if you think this is in the wrong forum, I'm basically asking if an AFPR is really needed, or if you can live without it, but would be stupid to do so. And, what is this guy talking about?! Every other person I heard from said it's a must, and makes a huge difference in power, mileage, tuning abilities, right down to making the idle more stable.
Thanks all.
Andy
And the reply you got was "That's wrong, anyone telling you that is just trying to sell you some crap to make a buck, I'm running XXXXcc injectors on a stock FPR and have done tuning on numerous other cars without them, it's not necessary."
Your obvious reply would include things like, "other people say" and "isn't the fuel pump overrunning the stock FPR" and "the car is running really rich."
To which you are asked "how do you know it's running rich, oh by the pointless AF gauge that shows COMPLETELY rich at WOT? That this is crap too," you hear from this guy.
How do I pay them to tune my car, believing an AFPR is a necessity, but they/he/she thinks it is not? Especially if they are going to tune from wideband 02!?
I don't want to get my car back with it no better than it is now.
Please feel free to move if you think this is in the wrong forum, I'm basically asking if an AFPR is really needed, or if you can live without it, but would be stupid to do so. And, what is this guy talking about?! Every other person I heard from said it's a must, and makes a huge difference in power, mileage, tuning abilities, right down to making the idle more stable.
Thanks all.
Andy