What is the best Manifold?

[SlowImport]

I have been looking at a few manifolds lately and I am just wondering what you guys think or know is the best manifold?

Full-Race
http://www.full-race.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_46&products_id=48

Shearer Motorsports
http://www.shearermotorsport.com/products/sf-02005.htm

SBR
http://www.slowboyracing.com/shop.php?sid=&cat=588

DNP
http://www.slowboyracing.com/shop.php?sid=&cat=590

RnR
http://rnrracing.com/cgi-bin/ccp5/c...33&pg=cat&ref=Turbo+Manifolds&catstr=HOME:DSM

Neukin
http://www.neukin.com/mitmanifolds.html

That is all that I could find at the moment. Maybe you guys can find more. But im just wondering which one is really worth the price tag that comes with it.

share your thoughts,
Josh

 

[Stapl3]

Do a search for some reviews.

When did exhaust manifolds become such a popular upgrade? I remember back in the day it was one of the last things to get because everything else was such a big bang for the buck.

 

[1993eclipseGS]

According to your profile, You don't even have a fuel pump yet. I'd suggest spending the money on something other then a manifold, Being it is not needed. Get a 2g manifold and port it, You'll be fine..

 

[SlowImport]

According to your profile, You don't even have a fuel pump yet. I'd suggest spending the money on something other then a manifold, Being it is not needed. Get a 2g manifold and port it, You'll be fine..

Well...I have a fuel pump. I just forgot to put it in there.

I appriciate all the comments on what I should do with my car, but I was just asking what you guys thought the best manifold on the market is in your opinion and why.

As for the 2G manifold ported I would just got with a SBR ported if I was going to do that. I know people have made okay power with a 2G manifolf ported but what about the others that I have posted. Anyone have any experience with these manifolds, like dyno numbers, track times, street kills, etc.

So does anyone have any ideas?

not trying to be rude,
Josh

 

[Stapl3]

I know people have made okay power with a 2G manifolf ported

9's with ease is decent power, I'll agree.

Manifolds are for spool increase mostly, not for the powa!

 

[Quasimondo]

Manifolds on a turbocharged car are overrated, imo. I'm sure somebody is going to say,"Well Shep uses a SMIM!!" and I have this to counter:

Mark Pontorolo managed to hurl his heavy as hell Galant VR-4 to an 11 second timeslip (11.955 @ 118.20, #19 under the Galant listing on DSMtimes.org) while still using a stock block, stock head, stock intake manifold, a 2G exhaust manifold, 272 cams, and the proper supporting mods for a FP Green.

Unless it's a restriction (which the 1G manifold isn't) you're not going to see any huge increases in power or e.t.'s to justify the cost of one. Spend your hard earned cash elsewhere, like on a bigger turbo.

 

[Stapl3]

He's asking about exhuast manifolds, which should be like the last mod.

 

[SlowImport]

Manifolds on a turbocharged car are overrated, imo. I'm sure somebody is going to say,"Well Shep uses a SMIM!!" and I have this to counter:

Mark Pontorolo managed to hurl his heavy as hell Galant VR-4 to an 11 second timeslip (11.955 @ 118.20, #19 under the Galant listing on DSMtimes.org) while still using a stock block, stock head, stock intake manifold, a 2G exhaust manifold, 272 cams, and the proper supporting mods for a FP Green.

Unless it's a restriction (which the 1G manifold isn't) you're not going to see any huge increases in power or e.t.'s to justify the cost of one. Spend your hard earned cash elsewhere, like on a bigger turbo.

What about when you go with a bigger turbo. Is that where these aftermarket manifolds shine? I wanna make good power, but is it worth 1,000 dollars?

thanks for the help,
Josh

 

[Stapl3]

When you hit 9's consider one.

 

[sweet97]

Josh I use the DNP that was $499. I had the first one carck in several places but they replaced it. honestly if I get cracks again I wouild get the SBR with their stage 2 port job. Put those big bucks towards a rebuilt motor. Oh yeah my DNP came after a Buschur stage 3 motor/head. I also run a Holset HX-35/40. You can read my mods. Mark

 

[Superbeast406]

When you hit 9's consider one.

I agree. A $1k header manifold is not going to give you that much performance over something like a ported manifold or the SBR. If your're gonna spend that much money you might as well buy a EVO III and supporting mods. Unless you got money to burn, or looks are your concern, stick with a cast manifold.

 

[Dream On]

He's got a 1g though, so it may need to be one of his first mods b/c of the cracking issues with them. When I first got my car I checked the manifold and found 3 huge cracks...So, I ordered my 2g that I plan on porting out before putting it on.

 

[dsm-onster]

He's got a 1g though, so it may need to be one of his first mods b/c of the cracking issues with them. When I first got my car I checked the manifold and found 3 huge cracks...So, I ordered my 2g that I plan on porting out before putting it on.

I agree with this. I went from a 1g to a n Evo3 mani and got full boost about 200 rpms sooner (not worth the price to me for that alone). But i now have a mani that i can even port the bajesus out of and never have to worry about cracking. IMHO, don't get an upgraded exhaust mani unless yours cracks.

 

[Quasimondo]

I'm a doofus.....

I thought he was asking about the intake manifold. I just realized that he was asking about the exhaust manifold

Now that I've cleared that up, just get a 2G manifold and open up the collector to about 7cm. Or better yet, get an Evo 3 manifold.

 

[91-gsx]

i currently have a pacesetter exhaust manifold, i first got it on there when the car was basically stock because i had noticed that my exhaust manifold was cracked. when i put it on i was expecting something spectacular to happen. now this manifold is always ragged on because of its tendency to crack, but not because it does not flow worth shit. so forget about its price and tendency to crack, which has yet to happen.... it actually flows well. but when i put it on my stock car, it did absolutely nothing that i could feel. it was not worth the money because it might have added power, but not anywhere near the amount of power an intake or exhaust adds. i actually just bought a 2g manifold to port out and port my 14b for 0 boost creep. anyway, my .02
later

 

[1SloColt]

Ported 2g manifold is easily enough to get into the tens, actually its one of the best flowing manifolds for our cars. Tubular headers are only gonna increase topend, and are geared more towards cars that stay "in boost", so for cars that are making a ton of power during racing. If I was to build a 10sec car that I drive around on the street on a regular basis then I would definitely run a ported 2g. It provides great spoolup, great topend, and plus it does not warp easily and does not crack easily. If I were building a track car then I would go with a tubular header. Port Evo III would be my next choice among manifolds for street driven cars but since you can get 2g manifolds for a good price and there isn't really much of a difference in actual "flow" then I don't even see much reason to get that either. Everything points to a ported 2g.

 

[Matts95TSiAWD]

DNP looks kick ass with those supports!

 

[Thomas91169]

unless youre running a huge turbo, a tubular manifold isnt necessary.

a SBR cast manny will give you a nice gain, in spool and bottom end performance(car is much more lively and responsive under the boost spectum), with a fmic and evo16g, i was hitting full 20psi by 3400rpm. and the fact the sbr cast flows as well as any tubular......

unless youre going for that sweet underhood look of a tubular manifold to scare away the honduh's.

 

[Stapl3]

and the fact the sbr cast flows as well as any tubular......

Bullshit, back that up.

The sbr cast manifold is for people too lazy to port a 2g manifold.

 

[yangtech]

everyone has their own opinions but i think its a good idea to upgrade that 1g manifold... but i wouldn't pay that much just for a manifold tho...

 

[definitiveno]

Bullshit, back that up.

The sbr cast manifold is for people too lazy to port a 2g manifold.

Nope, you can still port a SBR though.

 

[milz]

Go Evo 3 and port it!! Flows better than the 2gen

 

[Stapl3]

Nope, you can still port a SBR though.

What do you mean "nope"? It's identical to a 2g manifold really, just bigger.

I wouldn't port a sbr manifold unless you have a hogged out head or a huge turbine housing inlet. You'll probably do more harm than good.

 

[definitiveno]

What do you mean "nope"? It's identical to a 2g manifold really, just bigger.

I wouldn't port a sbr manifold unless you have a hogged out head or a huge turbine housing inlet. You'll probably do more harm than good.

is it bigger or identical?

 

[daren_p]

What do you mean "nope"? It's identical to a 2g manifold really, just bigger.

I wouldn't port a sbr manifold unless you have a hogged out head or a huge turbine housing inlet. You'll probably do more harm than good.

How can it be identical if its bigger Yes they are cast to look the same. I have one of their origional cast manifolds and can say it is alot bigger then any 2g mani.