What belt do I use for a 6-bolt in a 2g (Water Pump to Power Steering)a 1g belt or 2g

[GSX-911]

I have a 2G with a 6-bolt swap. Would i ask for a 1991 Water Pump to power steering pump Belt or would i buy a belt for the right model of my car, a 1998?? need help quick. Thanks.

 

[19Eclipse90]

The one that matches your car, 1998. Note that you will have to use a water pump pulley that matches the power steering pump.

 

[GSX-911]

well the thing is a 1998 Belt is too big for it. The 1991 or 6-bolt one looks like it will fit but the pulley design is different. The 1998 belt is ribbed and the 1991 belt has edges like a timing belt. My pulleys are designed for the ribbed belts. Anyone have any idea?

 

[19Eclipse90]

Take the belt back and request the next smallest belt. Or, if you don't like the guessing game, take a piece of string around both pulleys and measure it at two points: where the pump would normally be loose and where the pump would normally be tensioned. Tell them you need a belt similar style to the one you have but about as long as the string within the range you measured at the two points.

 

[GSX-911]

is that really the only way to do it? the smallest belt autozone said they had was the one that i had in my hand for the 2g. about 27.5 inches. has anyone else had this problem

will any of the EVO belts work on a DSM?

 

[BoostedTalonTS]

If you used the 1g 6-bolt forward engine mount then you will need a 4040270 belt in order to run your 2g power steering pump & ribbed water pump pulley, versus the 1g V-belts that plauged our 1g's... Trust me, use the 2g ribbed belt. -I swapped in a 2G power steering pump in my 94 just to get away from that stretching v-belt!

...only problem is that the belt I mentioned is not normally stocked in most stores. I had to special order mine.

 

[GSX-911]

whats a 4040270 belt ? Both the pulleys on the water pump and power steering pump are ribbed.

 

[BoostedTalonTS]

it is the part number (Goodyear) of the belt you need and yes, I'd hope that both your pullies are ribbed (2g style)... If you have the V-belt pulley then remove it as that came with the 1g 6-bolt

 

[GSX-911]

so do i order this from mitsubishi or any parts store? I just tell them taht number and they should know?

and just to clarify this belt is going to be shorter than the 2G water pump to power steering belt right? because like i said i have that already and its too long by a bit

 

[BoostedTalonTS]

any parts store should be able to order it, but I'd go through Rockauto.com for a good deal on it.

Correct. It is a shorter belt... The reason why it is shorter is because of the different forward motor mount design of the 1g 6-bolt vs the 2g 7-bolt forward mount that the power steering pump bracket bolts up to... For this reason, what 19Eclipse90 said:

The one that matches your car, 1998. Note that you will have to use a water pump pulley that matches the power steering pump.

will not work as the stock 2g belt will be about a 1/2" too long




Your forward motor mount should look like this, right?

 

[GSX-911]

this is the best pic i have of it. Cant look at it in person until tomrrow.Let me know what you think, if its right or not

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[BoostedTalonTS]

hard to tell that the mount is even there... the 2g style doesn't have the forward facing part of the motor mount that bolts up on the driver's side... From what I can tell, your driver's side motor mount is not installed in that pic. Do you have any pics taken from the driver's side?

 

[GSX-911]

Here is a distant pic from the other side. Which motor mount are you talking about because i Have the 2G one installed on the side of the engine.

if the 4040270 belt is shorter than the stock 2G belt than i think i should be fine ordering that. dont u think so

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[BoostedTalonTS]

Hmm... I don't know why it would be different then. THe 1g's have another forward motor mount that ties into the side mount that bolts to the body (see pic)... I measured the 2g style bracket (the one that bolts to the block with x4 14mm bolts (next to the oil dipstick) that the power steering pump's bracket mounts to... When I compared it to my 1g forward bracket, it was not as thick and does not have the 1g style upper motor mount studs (seen in pic on post #10) and that is why I needed the shorter belt as the OEM 2g belt was too long for my setup.

 

[19Eclipse90]

Correct. It is a shorter belt... The reason why it is shorter is because of the different forward motor mount design of the 1g 6-bolt vs the 2g 7-bolt forward mount that the power steering pump bracket bolts up to... For this reason, what 19Eclipse90 said will not work as the stock 2g belt will be about a 1/2" too long

Don't knock it until you try it.

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The reason I said to use the one for your car is because of the pulley and belt differences (V versus ribbed). It is not a fun thing to swap power steering pulleys.

The regular 2G belt is 695 mm long (~27.4") long, as you mentioned. The length is always listed in the part number of the belt: 4040270. You will note that the belt I have pictured above is in fact a 27.5" belt (275K4---4PK700) and it works fine. Obviously that should not be the first choice, but throwing a power steering belt never hurt anyone who is using timing covers and it has yet to do so after 1.5 years. As it is, I could take that bolt out and run the car, but I'd rather be safe(-r) than sorry. For the record, the pictures are of a '96 GST with 6-bolt swap.

Since you have the 2G mount installed, there should be no issues; but if you do have problems, go down in belt size, like I mentioned earlier and order if necessary.

 

[BoostedTalonTS]

Don't knock it until you try it.

The reason I said to use the one for your car is because of the pulley and belt differences (V versus ribbed). It is not a fun thing to swap power steering pulleys.

Belts come in 0.5" increments in the US. The regular 2G belt is 695 mm long (~27.4") long, as you mentioned. The next size down would be 27". The length is always listed in the part number of the belt: 4040270. You will note that the belt I have pictured above is in fact a 27.5" belt (275K4---4PK700) and it works fine. Obviously that should not be the first choice, but throwing a power steering belt never hurt anyone who is using timing covers and it has yet to do so after 1.5 years. As it is, I could take that bolt out and run the car, but I'd rather be safe(-r) than sorry. For the record, the pictures are of a '96 GST with 6-bolt swap.

Since you have the 2G mount installed, there should be no issues; but if you do have problems, go down in belt size, like I mentioned earlier and order if necessary.

Not a knock, per say... just making sure we are all on the same page I suspected that the OP had also used the 6-bolt's forward motor mount with his 6-bolt swap, like your pics of the 96.

I had originally thought of extending the 2g power steering bracket to allow for the proper fitment of the pump inside the bracket. But I see in your pic that the set bolts for the power steering pump are just hanging on the outer ear of the mounting bracket... I don't think that would last long on my 2.4L before I started throwing belts.

The one thing I did notice with the '96 method' is that it allows for clearance of the power steering pump's electrical connection... I had to clearance the underside of my forward motor mount bracket to allow for this by about 1/4" when using the 4040270 belt. -Quick work on the vice with a 3" cut off wheel. So now the 2g pump sits inside the pump's bracket & has the 2g-intended range of adjustment -But that only applies to if the 6-bolt forward bracket is used.

OP, I would still suggest trying the 4040270 belt but I just can't make sense out of why you are having this problem if you used the 2g forward bracket... Is there any possibility that it might be a 1g 6-bolt bracket that just got cut in half? If that is the case, then you will be fine with the 27" long belt.

 

[19Eclipse90]

I had originally thought of extending the 2g power steering bracket to allow for the proper fitment of the pump inside the bracket. But I see in your pic that the set bolts for the power steering pump are just hanging on the outer ear of the mounting bracket... I don't think that would last long on my 2.4L before I started throwing belts.

One set bolt is "just hanging out". Tightening the other three bolts keeps the pump in position; that last bolt is, as I mentioned, a safety of sorts. And don't be scared, that car put down 280whp and 301ft-lbs. I did lose an alternator belt once, though it was due to the crankshaft pulley separating. Seriously though, I would not suggest setting up like I have. I'll be taking care of mine when it gets thrown or it needs a new timing belt, whichever comes first.

OP, let us know when you get that 27" belt tried out.