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[PIMking]

That's one thing about the holsters is they all fit pretty tight. I guess they are just not broke in yet.
Either way I don't use a holster when I carry, (Yes, I do have my CHL) I just tuck it in the small of my back and haven't had any issues doing it that way. Sits just perfectly and never moves. Only time I have an issue is at restaurant booths or any hard type of chair. Everywhere else is gravy.

I personally would never buy any other brand of pistol when it comes to .45, .40 or 9mm. Springfield has always done me right and they are one hell of a gun.

On a side note, the .45 can be a pita to carry due to the bulkiness but I would not have it any other way. It's my favorite of the bunch

PIMking- It's not your cup of tea because you drive a versa... Haha, Just kidding man.

Jayson

I got three custom built holsters yesterday. Horsehide with keydex molded to my pistol. They're the same thing as the crossbreed super tuck and I love them. The 1911 isn't noticeable, same for the sig since they're the same size. The .38 special isn't even there thats how well it it concealed.

 

[PIMking]

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[minimotos95]

i have a question and also want imput: is a USP45 going to be as reliable as a glock?
right now i am trying to choose for a range gun that will also be open carry in about 9 months and until i can CC... thoughts thus far are

glock 32/33
more concealable
cheaper
LDA all the time as possessed to SA/DA
ammo has better muzzle energy and velocities brand for brand
gen 2(my ideal find) is going to be more collectible down the road then a USP or gen 3
cheaper mags
more CC friendly....

USP V1
more accurate?
can get a LE trade in for only a little more then a glock, more of a deal
wont have to modify grip like i would with gen 2.5+ glock(finger bumps suck) to get it comfortable
10mm, 9mm dillon or 400 corbon conversions?
DT bonded defense will provide 600+lbft of muzzle energy, about the same as 357 sig defensive rounds
higher resale over gen 3 glock
or i could get a USP 40 v3 $40 cheaper then the 45 but i hate 40 and would have to buy/trade for a 357 barrel

ammo for both 357 and 45 are about the same price, 45 is more available but more likely to be sold out during any political BS time
357 is cheaper to reload

this would be a much easier decision if they were both 357, and/or HK mags were cheaper... USP would win
/end random typing before i go to sleep which i should have done hours ago
fu#k i hate decisions


edit: i just found out about 45 super and am now leaning more towards the USP, damn near 1300fps and 700lbft of muzzle energy with the factory usp barrel, hell yeah

edit again: 357 sig at the local wally world is $6 cheaper a box, both are insatiably overpriced there 60c per round for 357 and 72c a round for 45

 

[3kgt2nv]

357 sig is a designer round that has not really gotten hold in the market as much as they thought it would.

i would be careful of picking that round for a cc or target gun because the possibility of the ammo becoming expensive.

personally i carry a 45 and would pick a 40 s&w over the 357.

if you really want it i would get a glock in 40 and get the lonewolf barrel in 357 just so you have the ability to carry both

ammo for both 357 and 45 are about the same price, 45 is more available but more likely to be sold out during any political BS time
357 is cheaper to reload

not true about reloading. i can reload 45 acp for about 1.50 / 50 if i cast my own lead bullets. with the glock because of the polygon barrel you have to shoot plated / jacketed bullets which cost more

even when shooting plated 45 acp rounds its about the same price if you have the brass. if you have to buy brass the 45 acp will be infinitely cheaper as the brass is much more common

 

[CLeMMeR]

My favorite would have to be the .357
Along with my
12 Gauge (2x)
20 Gauge (2x)
My love 30-30
The badass .300
another 30-30
.22
.273
And looking into a possible 30-06

 

[4G63_Attack]

My favorite would have to be the .357

And my's too, here is my baby

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[3kgt2nv]

he is asking about 357 sig not .357 magnum. two totally different animals.

in honor of the walking dead though i have been shooting the bageezus out of my 6 inch python in 357 mag

 

[Eclipsed]

I just applied for my FOID card in the great dictatorship of Illinois. Hopefully I'll decide on a nice beginner handgun in the next couple months.

So far it's between the Beretta 92fs and the Smith and Wesson m&p 9. Since you can't carry in Illinois, size doesn't matter much to me.

Anyone else have any other suggestions? I'd like to toy around with some 9mm for while before I really get the hang of shooting. I have some experience shooting, but obviously nothing like personally owning a gun.

 

[minimotos95]

^love me some 357 mag, i would never carry a revolver but want one for a range toy down the road
^ i have heard bad things about the beretta from every marine i have talked to, no personal experiance with them just going off what they said, the M&P is relativity new but already proven to be reliable

it's a shame 357sig isn't more popular, you basically can get +p+ 9mm fullsize performance out of a shorter barrel. i think the main factor for people not buying it is the price of high end ammo can get upwards of $1 a round from overpriced retailers, they just go down to the store, see the price and say "F##k this i'll just get a 9/40" without even looking around at other prices

if you really want it i would get a glock in 40 and get the lonewolf barrel in 357 just so you have the ability to carry both

i would do it the other way around, OEM is for carry, aftermarket for the range

not true about reloading. i can reload 45 acp for about 1.50 / 50 if i cast my own lead bullets. with the glock because of the polygon barrel you have to shoot plated / jacketed bullets which cost more

even when shooting plated 45 acp rounds its about the same price if you have the brass. if you have to buy brass the 45 acp will be infinitely cheaper as the brass is much more common

casting bullets is beyond my skill level, getting the diameter dialed in for the specific gun and all that other stuff i have no knowledge of.
i haven't looked in a few months, the price of .45 bullets have dropped to the same as 9mm/355? if so i see one more reason to go with the H&K.
the only way i would buy brass is if i was doing performance handloads and not downloaded target ammo, which for 357sig you can supposedly use 40 brass resized as long as you download to 9mm pressures not something i would try unless i'm messing with wax bullets(no powder)

both the 357 and 45(super or acp +p) will do the job when it comes to defense(even a 22lr will but that's another subject) i am not really concerned either way since i found out about 45 super

i know there's some USP owners in this thread, the question my decision comes down to:

is a USP45 going to be as reliable as a glock?

if yes the only reason i'm seeing to get the glock over it
is slightly cheaper, gen 2 ordered = $460+ OTD, gen 3 locally = $450-550+ OTD(haven't seen any 357s, a g23 was at the gunshow last weekend for $450, two g27s for $550 each so i figure if i do find one locally it will be somewhere in that area), USP45 = $500 + SHIPPING and FFL fee, USP40 v3(no BS safety to get in the way) = $460 +shipping and FFL fee... the USP's are a steal their prices and i doubt they will ever
be this cheap again, glocks however have been $400-600 for the last 25 years

the SA/DA trigger on the USP but i could always convert the v1 to LEM

more concealable(don't have to worry about for a few years),

mags


edit: i think i have it figured out:
go to gun show in april, if nothings worth it i will order a USP from cdnn,

 

[3kgt2nv]

i would do it the other way around, OEM is for carry, aftermarket for the range

you can go from bigger to smaller not the other way around. have to go 40 with the replacement 357 sig. barrel

the 40 is more than capable as a carry round. and the 45 super is getting into designer performance and price.

100 years of 45 acp has to mean something

the main reason the 357 sig failed to catch on was it was an answer to a need that wasnt there. performance between a 9 and a 45.

with +p 9mm and 40 filling the gap it didnt catch on when only 2 manufacturers are producing a gun for it.

 

[minimotos95]

you can go from bigger to smaller not the other way around. have to go 40 with the replacement 357 sig. barrel

the 40 is more than capable as a carry round. and the 45 super is getting into designer performance and price.

100 years of 45 acp has to mean something

the main reason the 357 sig failed to catch on was it was an answer to a need that wasnt there. performance between a 9 and a 45.

with +p 9mm and 40 filling the gap it didnt catch on when only 2 manufacturers are producing a gun for it.

holy misinformation batman

40 and 357 are completely interchangeable with each other, infact early model glock 357 sigs were more beefed up then 40

40 is less velocity, muzzle energy, accuracy and more muzzle flip vs 357 sig, they both have the same % "1 shot stop", i have heard of expansion of .75" with 357sig into gelitan(sp?) i assume 40 can open up a little more then that

it means weak case pressure causing low velocities, as apposed to 45 super which is the same size case but thicker walls so is able to hit 200fps faster then 45acp+p. the HK can handle both in a all stock gun, meaning super for carry and acp for practice without even a barrel swap, when it comes to carry rounds i am willing to pay more. sure you can carry wadcutters but is a little money worth risking power and penetration?

i think 357 will just stay between mainstream cartridge and wildcat for at least another 10 years since government agencies are using it(air marshals and secret service?)

BTW there is more then 2 brands that make guns in 357 sig
glock
H&K
sig
S&W
springfield
nighthawk custom
other 1911 companies i do not care to know?

hell, i think that's actually more then manufactures make guns chambered in 10mm



edit: after talking with some family members i discovered:
the USP is even more reliable then a glock
the USP45 is probably the smartest buy because i can always get a g33 or g30 down the road for CC.
i get payed Friday and will probably be ordering it next week, and according to the interwebz they only charge $10 for shipping.

 

[3kgt2nv]

from what my gun store has told me the 357 sig glocks will not work with the 40 barrel. it might be something with the extraction port but from everything that ive seen its almost always glock 23 that get converted to 357 sig.

Ive yet to personally see or read about someone going from a 357 to 40 in a glock.

and springfield does not have a 357 chambered anything unless it is so new they don't have it on their website and s&w offers the mp my bad.

as far as nighthawk tactical if you were going to spend 2500-3k on a custom 1911 and wait six months im sure they would be more than chamber it in what ever you wanted also.

And just because a manufacturer list a caliber in its lineup doesn't mean its available.

but it sounds like you made up your mind and as a big supporter of 45 acp im glad you choose a usp45

 

[minimotos95]

you have never seen a XD 357? weird, their all over the place here, probably 5:1 with glock 357s... so really there is 5 off the shelve companies that make something in 357 sig
http://www.springfield-armory.com/xd.php?version=78

there's 2 differences between 40sw an 357 sig glocks
barrel
followers, some report problems others say it works flawless for both
possibly the recoil spring being heavier

slide internals are identical, as is the frame from ___ year on
the base of the cartridges is also the same and have a a pretty close OAL


any opinions on what eclipsed is trying to decide?

 

[3kgt2nv]

might be because NY sucks and alot of companies dont make ny compliant guns

 

[MrBoxx]

Springfield does make the XD (not the M) in .357Sig, but it's pretty rare. I don't believe you can get the compact or subcompact versions in .357, only the full size 4.5" or 4" service sizes. Not quite sure about the 5" tactical model. I thought I saw one person on the XD forums having said they possessed one, but I could be wrong.

I really like the .357Sig round. I do not like the cost. I'm finding .40S&W for around .27/round for FMJ practice ammo. Apparently a lot of SWAT teams are switching to the .357 round for 9mm accuracy/recoil and .40 stopping power. So... it's a good combination between the two, but how many people are looking for that niche? Sorta like the old .223 vs 7.62mm debate. What became of it? The 6.8SPC. It's a great military round, but there are better hunting calibers, and there are better target shooting calibers and there are better zombie calibers, but it's catching on. .357Sig will too. And hopefully the price will go down and I can someday afford to own and shoot one.

 

[PIMking]

357 sig is a designer round that has not really gotten hold in the market as much as they thought it would.

i would be careful of picking that round for a cc or target gun because the possibility of the ammo becoming expensive.

personally i carry a 45 and would pick a 40 s&w over the 357.

if you really want it i would get a glock in 40 and get the lonewolf barrel in 357 just so you have the ability to carry both



not true about reloading. i can reload 45 acp for about 1.50 / 50 if i cast my own lead bullets. with the glock because of the polygon barrel you have to shoot plated / jacketed bullets which cost more

even when shooting plated 45 acp rounds its about the same price if you have the brass. if you have to buy brass the 45 acp will be infinitely cheaper as the brass is much more common

A lot of the state police are going to the .357 sig because of it's ability to penetrate objects and have the knock down power. the US air marshals and plenty of state police use it.

It's becoming a very popular round and I will be getting something chambered in a .357 sig

 

[3kgt2nv]

ive thought about it a bunch also and have tons of brass from the range but i really cant pull hte trigger on it yet as i dont like the glocks grip as my fingers line up exactly on the raised finger ridges and im not a sig guy.

i know someone makes a 1911 in it but for the price i would rather get a .22 tcm 1911 and have a high cap 22 shot 1911

 

[minimotos95]

^ i have the same problem with finger bumps which is why i prefer the gen 2's, gen 2 31 and 32s are pretty rare but are out there... this can be solved on gen 3's and 4's if you have the balls to grind/sand into the frame

i remember seeing a lower end 1911 chambered in 357 sig though it could have just been a conversion from a 40sw 1911..

edit: i finally remembered where i saw 357 sig practice ammo for cheaper then 45... http://georgia-arms.com/cannedheat357sig125grfullmetaljacket500pk.aspx i am pretty sure their mass produced reloads and i believe it's downloaded to 9mm velocity

 

[PIMking]

You can get a RIA 1911 for around 450-500.

I'm not to hot on the Glocks grips either but I will get new grips for it soon.

 

[Maverick4g63]

Isnt the RIA stuff produced on old springfield equipment in the phillipines? Seems like I was told that at some point in the past.

 

[PIMking]

Isnt the RIA stuff produced on old springfield equipment in the phillipines? Seems like I was told that at some point in the past.

Yup.... Also the Citadel is built in the same plant too..

Here is my new addition

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[Maverick4g63]

I know its a grainy pic, but still a pretty neat shot. My XD9sc with the extended 16 rd mag.

 

[Sotarts]

Beretta PX4 Storm Type F.

 

[Maverick4g63]

Thats a nice weapon aovsi. I fired the PX4 Storm sub compact and my XD back to back on the day I purchased it. The Sringfield fit my hand better and allowed for better accuracy. I must say though, that Storm is a great looking weapon.

 

[Sotarts]

Thats a nice weapon aovsi. I fired the PX4 Storm sub compact and my XD back to back on the day I purchased it. The Sringfield fit my hand better and allowed for better accuracy. I must say though, that Storm is a great looking weapon.

PX4 is packaged with two additional, different thickness inserts for the grip. Might allow for a better fit in your hand.

I found that polymer frame PX4 makes me much more consistent when it comes to accuracy, plus it's much easier to live with when carrying at work for hours.