Turboing my 92 nt

[dsmgearheadtune]

hey guys i ended up picking up a t3/t4 turbo, manifold, gm inline mass air flow sensor, a inter cooler, and a look alike hks bov, i was wondering if anybody knew were i could find the hook ups for the air sensor and a good place were i could get the oil lines for the turbo, and do i have to have a waste gate and what is the main purpose for them? any help is appreciated

 

[boostin92awd]

Yes you are going to want a wastegate exspecially on a non-turbo that is getting turboed. The wastegate restricts how much air that is allowed into the motor. Without one the turbo would just force as much air into the motor as it wanted in the end causing detination.

 

[dsmgearheadtune]

ok kool, ### would be better, and internal or external waste gate, and were could i find the o2 housing that goes between the turbo and down pipe or the exhaust?

 

[projecteclipse2]

there is a thread for turboing a non turbo car
I would recommend a smalled turbo like a 14b for turboing your car.
A t3/t4 hybrid is a little crazy for stock internals.
Where did you get the turbo?
Upgrade your injectors, get a turbo cam, safc or some kind of fuel management list goes on.
Here is the link and good luck I am converting my car over to a turbo tohttp://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/1g-n-t-tech/157911-how-turbo-your-1st-gen-2-0-nt.html

 

[dsmgearheadtune]

that def has alot of good info, i got the turbo from a guy from craigslist, i know a t3/t4, is rather big but it will also support after i do all the other mods listed in that thread

 

[projecteclipse2]

i would still recommend a 14b
you can sell the t3/t4 and buy a 14b and have some money left over deff worth it.

 

[dsmgearheadtune]

im only planing on running 10 psi with it, and i only paid 100 for the t3/t4 and the manifold.

 

[projecteclipse2]

it wouldnt spool up as nice as a smaller turbo

 

[dsmgearheadtune]

yea i know, but i'm planing on doing plenty more to my talon in the future. would it be better to run a external or internal waste gate?

 

[dsmgearheadtune]

correct me if im wrong but isnt this were i get my oil supply to my turbo from, then when i do the return i just drill a hole into the oil pan and put a bolt fitting in there right?

 

[dsmgearheadtune]

and also whats the difference between a BOV and wastegate?

 

[aspekt9]

I think you should perhaps educate yourself a bit more on the process before jumping into this from the look of your previous posts.

 

[projecteclipse2]

^^^^^^ word

 

[manny correa]

x3^^ your trying to run 12's before 14's..

 

[projecteclipse2]

Yea man when your turboing a car its keen that you research and build a setup that will allow you to maximize your horsepower while not KILLING YOUR MOTOR
So do not cheap out just because you only paid a hundred bucks doesn't mean its a good choice.

 

[dsmgearheadtune]

im asking for your guys input and help on this, but if your just going to degrade me then go somewhere else to do to somebody else

 

[projecteclipse2]

Best bet is to get a smaller turbo thats my input
I am not trying to degrade you

 

[n8dsmdriven]

and also whats the difference between a BOV and wastegate?

oh wow.... yes from this quote, i highly recomend you look a little deeper into turbo applications, or ask some one who knows there dsms inside and out that can show you everything

 

[dsmgearheadtune]

i know what the main differences are between them, but correct me if im wrong, a bov releases all the that goes into the intake while shifting, and the waste gate controls how much pressure is put into the system?

 

[1stGenTSi]

I'm willing to bet this is also an ebay turbo. Good luck. Like stated get a 14b.

 

[dsmgearheadtune]

i didn't get it from ebay, i got it thru i guy off of craigslist

 

[talon187]

yeah we know you got the turbo off some guy. x2 for it being an ebay turbo along with manifold. I bet the guy bought it from ebay. they dont last they are junk pics ###zzzz

 

[duwackerTSi69]

and also whats the difference between a BOV and wastegate?

i know what the main differences are between them, but correct me if im wrong, a bov releases all the that goes into the intake while shifting, and the waste gate controls how much pressure is put into the system?

I cant believe no body told this guy to read the rules and use the search feature yet..WTF
Haha, let me do it..**clears throat**Theres plenty of info on this site, it's been talked about a ga-zillion times and you need to search first.

yeah we know you got the turbo off some guy. x2 for it being an ebay turbo along with manifold. I bet the guy bought it from ebay. they dont last they are junk pics ###zzzz

What he means is that it fell off the back of a truck, ya know what I mean..

 

[talon187]

Rof

 

[abaum565]

First off, good luck with your project and take it one step at a time it will be a great learning experience.

Secondly, we all have to start somewhere, no dsm wiseman just wakes up one day and knows everything there is to know about dsm's. You came to the right place for help, so take what you are offered here as top notch advice.

But please understand that this conversion is no easy task, and throwing some parts on will make it fast, etc. You need to set a goal (turbo your n/a car) gather your information (search) and go from there. The only reason you are getting comments like this is because your questions are immature for this project, no offense. There is a wealth of information on this site for what you are doing, you just have to search for it and read, and read a lot. Just jumping on here and asking these questions is bound to have this outcome.

In all honesty your turbo/manifold probably came from ebay, check ebay for pictures and compare to the one you have. Also no one in there right mind would sell a genuine t3/t4 turbo in good working condition for $100, with a manifold yet. Post up some pictures of it and we can help identify it for you.

Seems like you have a bunch of parts that will get you started, but you are still going to need some key components to get it going good.
Fuel
exhaust
tuning software
etc.

These are not parts you want to "put on later" either you gather all the parts you need and do it right and do it once, or don't put the stuff you have on until then, unless you would like to be without a car for a while (boost is contageous).

I also suggest getting a 14b.

Slapping on a big turbo on that motor isn't going to be "fast", at 10 psi your not even in the range of that turbo being efficient, a 14b at that level will be much better.

A blow off valve (BOV) is located on the intake side of your system, usually after the intercooler before the throttle body. It releases the air that is still in the system when the throttle plate shuts. (lay mans terms)

A wastegate is located on the exhaust side of your system, usually as close to the manifold collector as possible. It stays closed until a certain "boost" is achieved, it then opens and diverges exhaust gas around the turbo creating no more boost. (lay mans terms)

Please take what I say with no offense, just trying to help you along.