turbo kit for the non turbo?

[Eclipsegsi]

I searched the forums but did not see anything, so here it goes

Hi there, i'm new here and i have an Eclipse GSi so a non turbo...

I have a few questions:

I saw there is a turbo kit for the non turbo, now can my engine take those forces, It's a non turbo now, so when installing a turbo, do you think it all will go well.....

I live in europe so we got the 4g63 engine here. from the mitsubishi galant.

I hope to hear from you soon.

Yours sincerely

 

[justin0469]

I searched the forums but did not see anything, so here it goes

there is a whole forum dedicated to this if you look on the main page under 2g non turbo bolt ons.

I live in europe so we got the 4g63 engine here. from the mitsubishi galant.

if you mean you have the 4g63 in your car, that is a unique situation for a 2g GS but im sure it same or somewhat close to a 1g NT.

 

[truECLIPSE]

umm a gsi?? are you sure you don't have a gs-t with the 4g63 engine in there? if you can try and post pictures of your engine bay.

 

[pr0]

umm a gsi?? are you sure you don't have a gs-t with the 4g63 engine in there? if you can try and post pictures of your engine bay.

Hes from Europe. Its a GSi there and hes got the 4g63 n/a I believe not the 420a.

As for the turbo kit, I would suggest building a custom one.

 

[Eclipsegsi]

Here is a picture of my engine,

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Also check the website. www.myeclipse.tk

It has no turbo. But i''ll try to find the information. But it's just that when i install one, i wanna do it right. only the best for my car. But the prices they ask here in the netherlands are not normal. they ask 50 euros per hour.

Anyways, I hope can see the pictures. and please tell me what u think...

 

[justin0469]

alot of people will tell you to save your money, sell this car, and a GST or GSX. saves money and the motor is made for it

 

[igopoopy]

people he has an edm eclipse it has a 4g63 n/t kinda like mine (just in a 2g)

 

[Eclipsegsi]

Nah, there's only 1 gs-t in Germany, and in holland ther's non. Only in spain and the us have alot of gs-t's or gsx's but it costs alot to import them, we have to pay 33% of the new price of the vehicle to import it to the netherlands,

Also there are only 30 eclipses in the netherlands. So it's a rare car here.

So i am going to install an ace turbokit, But i want to know if my engine can take it.....

If i had the chance to buy an eclipse gs-t i would have done it. But it was not an option for me..... I had the cash, but the car was not here. But i'm still a very happy man with my eclipse GSi, it's the best looking car ever....

 

[GSGoinFast]

alot of people will tell you to save your money, sell this car, and a GST or GSX. saves money and the motor is made for it

alot of people will tell you not to say that, including this guy...

We've had some trouble in the past with owners of factory turbocharged DSMs coming into these forums and advising N/T DSM owners to sell their cars and buy a turbocharged car. That is not to happen anymore. If you do not own a N/T DSM and have never owned one, you should not be giving any advice in this forum. Go use the other forums. If we hear of people coming in the the N/T forums and giving N/T owners a hard time or suggesting they sell their cars and buy turbo cars, those users will be suspended or banned.

thanks

 

[GSGoinFast]

Nah, there's only 1 gs-t in Germany, and in holland ther's non. Only in spain and the us have alot of gs-t's or gsx's but it costs alot to import them, we have to pay 33% of the new price of the vehicle to import it to the netherlands,

Also there are only 30 eclipses in the netherlands. So it's a rare car here.

So i am going to install an ace turbokit, But i want to know if my engine can take it.....

If i had the chance to buy an eclipse gs-t i would have done it. But it was not an option for me..... I had the cash, but the car was not here. But i'm still a very happy man with my eclipse GSi, it's the best looking car ever....

your engine will be able to handle low boost, like below 10 psi. im just going off of what the 1gnt guys can do.

by the way, ive noticed a lot of europeans coming on the boards, how do you guys all know english? the most i know of another language is i tell one of the mexican guys at my work that he has a small penis

 

[turboed420A]

your engine will be able to handle low boost, like below 10 psi. im just going off of what the 1gnt guys can do.

by the way, ive noticed a lot of europeans coming on the boards, how do you guys all know english? the most i know of another language is i tell one of the mexican guys at my work that he has a small penis

that's the funniest thing I have heard out of you yet! keep them coming! I have noticed the same thing too

 

[Eclipsegsi]

Well here in The Netherlands, we are very Pro-American, We learn English at the age of 8.

But don't expect germans to learn it, Sometimes when the holidays begin, The german people come to our country for holiday, and they don't eevn speak 1 word of english. As for the french the same, Not 1 word.

And thank u for helping me. See i'm not all that technical when it comes to engines and things like that. All i know is that the Eclipse is a beautifull car, and i could never sell my car now and buy a gs-t.

Btw i found 1 other gs-t it's in germany, but it aint right, It only has about 60k miles, and they ask 5000 euro's. so there must be something wrong....

But about my engine code. I know the 420a engine is a crysler, and the 4g63 eninge in my eclipse comes from the Mitsubishi Galant. Are those engines strong?

Anyways, It's nice to have found a website, where people know what they are talking about.....

 

[Eclipsegsi]

Ok now i have found a turbo engine for my eclipse. But its only the engine, so no computer and dashboard, wires etc, i have to buy that. Will it cost me much?

Otherwize i just will keep my GSi like this, and dont swap the turbo engine...

 

[GSGoinFast]

Well here in The Netherlands, we are very Pro-American, We learn English at the age of 8.

so there is some Pro-American countries in europe!

As for the french the same, Not 1 word.

thats ok, we dont like them anyways

Ok now i have found a turbo engine for my eclipse. But its only the engine, so no computer and dashboard, wires etc, i have to buy that. Will it cost me much?

Otherwize i just will keep my GSi like this, and dont swap the turbo engine...

as ive told you, im not too familiar with the 2gnt eurospec, or the 4g63nt in general, im more of a 420a guy. but this link should help you a little if you want to swap the engine.

http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37019

 

[Eclipsegsi]

Thanks that's gonna help me alot , I'll ask him more about it. The only thing that keeps me from doing it, >>>>> It will cost me over 11000 euros to do it. The engine costs 3500 euros, (i tade my engine to the turbo version), then i got to tow away my eclipse to the tuners also i have to transport the turbo engine, Then they will check the engine, and replace stuff. I have to buy electric stuff. Then they begin installing it. That will take 2 days, (if not problems occure). Total price tag, about 10000/11000 euro's. So it's alot of money,

Maybe i will reconsider and just Chiptune my gsi, chance some parts with race parts ( i dont know the words in english). and mayb install a Nitrous oxide system (if i dare).

All i want is just to take the 0 to 60 run in 7 seconds. Then i'm happy,

I can wait 1 more or so, and then swap motors.

Man i wished i lived in the US. then things would have been alot easier. And cheaper. You guys are lucky.

 

[Raph]

I searched the forums but did not see anything, so here it goes

Hi there, i'm new here and i have an Eclipse GSi so a non turbo...

I have a few questions:

I saw there is a turbo kit for the non turbo, now can my engine take those forces, It's a non turbo now, so when installing a turbo, do you think it all will go well.....

I live in europe so we got the 4g63 engine here. from the mitsubishi galant.

I hope to hear from you soon.

Yours sincerely

hey man,i did the same thing,car runs beutifully.. and i live in saarland..close to luxemberg and also close to bitburg.. lets turbo your car! i can help you out!

edit.. i turboed my 4g63 nt.. no rewiring bullcrap,nothimg of the sort.. and with the eurospec gearing.. this car pulls pretty well .. i have high compression and am running low boost (7psi) the result is somewhere around 200 - 230 hp[

my whole kit (turbo plus manifold) and miscallaneous other parts cost me 1500 euros total ...not the crayz 11000 euro idea you have..

i can call you at home if you give me your phonnumber (per pm)

id really like to help you out
then we can meet at the local races in bitburg (lots of cars from the netherlands come out there too)

check out my galerry for pics..ill be adding more pics this week!

 

[GSGoinFast]

hey man,i did the same thing,car runs beutifully.. and i live in saarland..close to luxemberg and also close to bitburg.. lets turbo your car! i can help you out!

edit.. i turboed my 4g63 nt.. no rewiring bullcrap,nothimg of the sort.. and with the eurospec gearing.. this car pulls pretty well .. i have high compression and am running low boost (7psi) the result is somewhere around 200 - 230 hp[

my whole kit (turbo plus manifold) and miscallaneous other parts cost me 1500 euros total ...not the crayz 11000 euro idea you have..

i can call you at home if you give me your phonnumber (per pm)

id really like to help you out
then we can meet at the local races in bitburg (lots of cars from the netherlands come out there too)

check out my galerry for pics..ill be adding more pics this week!

wow another one... can someone please explain why his car's steering wheel is on the left? shouldnt it be on the right? or do you guys drive on the right?

but yea definatly dont spend 11,000 euros on the swap. thats rediculous(euros are pretty similar to dollars right? i think euros are worth a little more). try scrapping a kit together from people who are replacing there stock parts. check ebay a lot.

 

[ShadowWulf]

Total price tag, about 10000/11000 euro's. So it's alot of money,

Holy crap, how much is that american? (ok, ran it through currency calculator.....ummm)

11,000 E = $14,121.71 American at the current exchange rate.................


Dude, seriously get a turbo kit, dont do the motor swap that is just ridiculously expensive.
The turbo kit, if available in europe for 1500 Euro is a better deal, since it works out to $1,925.69 american.

 

[Eclipsegsi]

1st of all, In europe we drive with the steering wheel on the left (only England have the steering wheel on the right, they also drive on the other side of the road.

And it would be great to have some help. I'll PM u.

1 other thing, The main difference between a turbo and a non turbo engine is that the turbo engine has a few more sencores. and i was told that it always goes wrong when u bolt a turbo onto a non turbo engine without changing some crusial parts....

 

[GSGoinFast]

1st of all, In europe we drive with the steering wheel on the left (only England have the steering wheel on the right, they also drive on the other side of the road.

hmmm i never knew that... well there goes my theory on why the euro spec 2gnt's got the 4g63...

And it would be great to have some help. I'll PM u.

1 other thing, The main difference between a turbo and a non turbo engine is that the turbo engine has a few more sencores. and i was told that it always goes wrong when u bolt a turbo onto a non turbo engine without changing some crusial parts....

theres a lot more differences. different pistons, maybe different rods, im not positive, turbo engine has oil squiters, and a more aggressive intake cam. it also has more sensors such as knock sensor, and others.

 

[Eclipsegsi]

I'm still doubting. I dont know, see if u do it, and my engine explodes. i have to engine

Or i just try it, n it'l work out al right.

 

[GSGoinFast]

I'm still doubting. I dont know, see if u do it, and my engine explodes. i have to engine

Or i just try it, n it'l work out al right.

if you wanna make big power with these cars, you gotta have a sack!

 

[Raph]

hmmm i never knew that... well there goes my theory on why the euro spec 2gnt's got the 4g63...




theres a lot more differences. different pistons, maybe different rods, im not positive, turbo engine has oil squiters, and a more aggressive intake cam. it also has more sensors such as knock sensor, and others.

the eurospec has oilsquirters .... (has to survive brutal 140mph autobahn runs..yes we drive topspeed for long streches at a time)

i may try a turbo intake cam next

the Eurospec tranny has a different first and fith gear as well as a different finaldrive ratio..

my car is running strong..no problems,no stuttering,no check engine lights nothing of the sort.. (knock on wood)

 

[Raph]

i got a turbo kit from the states.. basically all i needed was the turbo(the rest of the kit was basically junk) and feed lines and the manifold.. i rewelded the downpipe etc and used a stock 2g intercooler as well as greddy licp and stock uicp.. easy really

 

[Eclipsegsi]

Don't u guys think my engine will blow up?

Maybe it is possible to keep the turbo on lower pressure not the normal presure (in the netherlands thats 0,7 bar) so i would half it, to 0.4.

I dont want my engine to blow up