Turbo AND Nitrous? Bolt-Ons?

[ecli6713]

I have a question. Ive been reading and learning alot about my car and ive decided its time to upgrade my engine.

I have almost complete stock 420a engine. 1999 Eclipse GS. Only thing added to it is a Injen Cold Air Intake. I keep it very well maintained. Oil changes every 3-5k miles with Royal Purple. I drive it to and from Wisconsin/Michigan quite often, which is why i have such high miles. 135k.
Electric fans and aluminum radiator as well.

Ive been curious which is the best path to choose for upgrading my engine. Best performance and safest. Id also like to know which would be the most cost effective, hp/tq per dollar wise.

Should I buy a turbo kit for it? Nitrous? or just go Bolt-ons?
Also can you have more than one? Ive been confused about this for a while now, I.E - Turbo and Nitrous at the same time. Or All Three? And would it even be worth it?

I plan on saving up and buying everything one at a time so im not too worried about prices. But im not rich, I cant afford $1000+ items.

I dont know much about cars but i believe i know enough to upgrade my engine. I'm just looking for some help. Any and ALL advice would be greatly appreciated.


CD

 

[ChrisTheBuilder]

I have a question. Ive been reading and learning alot about my car and ive decided its time to upgrade my engine.

I have almost complete stock 420a engine. 1999 Eclipse GS. Only thing added to it is a Injen Cold Air Intake. I keep it very well maintained. Oil changes every 3-5k miles with Royal Purple. I drive it to and from Wisconsin/Michigan quite often, which is why i have such high miles. 135k.
Electric fans and aluminum radiator as well.

Ive been curious which is the best path to choose for upgrading my engine. Best performance and safest. Id also like to know which would be the most cost effective, hp/tq per dollar wise.

Should I buy a turbo kit for it? Nitrous? or just go Bolt-ons?
Also can you have more than one? Ive been confused about this for a while now, I.E - Turbo and Nitrous at the same time. Or All Three? And would it even be worth it?

I plan on saving up and buying everything one at a time so im not too worried about prices. But im not rich, I cant afford $1000+ items.

I dont know much about cars but i believe i know enough to upgrade my engine. I'm just looking for some help. Any and ALL advice would be greatly appreciated.


CD

The best bang for your buck assuming your motor is up for the task is nitrous. There's a proton kit from NX "nitrous exspress" I think it's around 380$ ish.

You can run nitrous a turbo and put bolt ons on your car. But I would highly recommend rebuilding your motor and replacing all your timing components before really throwing a lot at it. I do not see why your motor couldn't handle a 75 shot of nitrous though.

 

[AK Maniak]

I agree with Chris. If you are just looking for a quick and cheap solution for some extra power then a bottle is probably best. However If you are willing to build it then I would suggest turbo. Piece together your own kit instead of buying one. Just research and read as much as possible before buying any parts.

 

[glowryder]

Agrred with both above. Nitrous will be quick and easy and cheaper.. Building for boost will be more expensive. IMO if your not prepared to do it right ( IE buy a few 1000+ Items) then the boost path isnt for you. Yes you can Boost for considerably less then some of s spend, however the factor of Reliability comes into play.. some get away with ebay parts, some dont.. Anything can and will blow up, even your nitrous, its all about mitagating the risk, better parts/build helps mitagate that risk.

First hing Id do is a compression check and see how exactly your engines health is.

75 shot is about as high as i would tempt on a stock motor.

It reall depends on what your gaol is, because you wont/shouldnt be using nitorus on the street.. then again i would think the tribal graphics should scare most contenders away

 

[Calan]

... then again i would think the tribal graphics should scare most contenders away

I would think that cars with the ridiculous F&F look would actually draw real performance cars toward them like stink on sh$t.

 

[ZombieSix]

any car i see all f&f decked out draws my immediate attention and they are usually all non turbo bone ass stock.

 

[talon2gbuyer]

... Bottles are for babies...

 

[glowryder]

I happen to agree with both of you .

However, OP, it depedns on your budget and Goal. If your wanting to be a street car on a low budget, then just check motor for healt, and if its good, then ass a s16G and boost around 8psi. And enjoy the car. wont be "fast" but it will be quick.

 

[jayson427]

if this is your daily driver then building the motor for performance will be hard unless you buy another engine. i have done alot to my car under the hood and its been about 3 years worth of work and lots of money. im happy with it tho but i knew what i was getting into building a 420a. you can add nitrous but even a 75 shot over time will end up reducing your engine life by alot.

 

[bo0st]

NoS (the company) doesn't recommend more than a 40% increase in Power I believe. For us that'd be about a 55 shot

I run a 35 shot and have no problems with reliably and you actually feel a nice increase if you got all the other mods (pulley, intake, free full exhaust, and MSD)

 

[Haase]

I would also suggest nitrous, it is very affordable and from experience I can tell you that you don't want to turbo the car unless your prepared to put some pretty serious money into it... A stock internal 420a would never be able to handle both nitrous AND a turbo, not for very long at least. My first Eclipse was a 420a that i turboed and personally wouldn't recommend to anyone to do it haha but that's just me... Nitrous tho definitely will give you that instant power for cheaper than any other thing you can do to it... just my .02

 

[99 gs iowa]

id jus grab a hahn turbo set up an run it between 6-8psi an you should be fine, plus boost is way more fun than nos,

 

[verbalcat]

I'm in the same predicament. I don't want to invest alot into mine if the output is so-so.

 

[hazmat6135]

If you want performance and reliability then your best bet is to not put any money into that car. Keep it as your DD and either build a second motor that is ready for boost or use the extra money to pickup a turbo car. The best way to do any upgrades are by having a beater as a DD and being able to build your "performance" car on the side.This allows you to save money and do everything right. IMO

 

[glowryder]

^This. This the most logical thing to do when in this "situation"

420A is costly to do correctly. 1000$ will not get you a reliable build, or power. Save cash to do it right, or just enjoy the car stock.