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TO4E super 50 trim?

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clipise

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i dont know if i should be happy or sad...


everywhere i read says when u install any bullseye TO4E turbo on your car, u need to dent your water pipe. well....i installed mine and no denting was needed. i dont know if i should be happy or concerned. why? well because i want to make sure that the turbo i bought is the right one.


the turbo is supposed to be a Bulleyes TO4E super 50 trim...

am i lucky or do i have a problem?
 

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I don't have any problem with a TO4E compressor housing on my car. I don't have as much clearance as you but I have a PTE turbine housing, the Bullseye turbine housing probably moves the turbo a little farther away from the block.
 
That's what I was thinking of that engine stand. Mine are just a shitty orange.
 
the stand was $50 at murrys! the two front wheels swivel. out all the stands i used, i like this one the best.


anyone else with any anwsers to my question?:sosad:
 
That is a T04E cover.. All the T04B covers that bullseye uses have that funny arrow on them. Your setup must just come together just right.

That is a 2G exhaust manifold right?
 
clipise said:
the stand was $50 at murrys! the two front wheels swivel. out all the stands i used, i like this one the best.


anyone else with any anwsers to my question?:sosad:

I don't think there is need for concern. Some people are lucky and don't have to do that. I know when I got my 50 trim, I was told that the only way was to dent the water pipe, so that's what I did. So as I'm doing it, a friend with a stealth comes by and says, 'hey, why don't you just rotate the compressor housing?' WTF

Sweet deal that you didn't have to on a turbo with a bigger compressor section than mine. Looks sweet too!
 
its because of that spacer between the turbo and the exhaust manifold. i cant believe no one picked up on thatROFL. just think where the turbo would be without it. it would be time to dent the water pipe...
 
dnhieu said:
its because of that spacer between the turbo and the exhaust manifold. i cant believe no one picked up on thatROFL. just think where the turbo would be without it. it would be time to dent the water pipe...


I don't see any spacer, thats the way the turbine housing is cast. Well atleast thats what I see.
 
I don't think that's a spacer. It's just the flange on the bullseye housing, it's pretty thick.

I didn't have to dent my water pipe with my PTE 5031 with the T04E housing either.

One thing though, my 50 trim has a .60 A/R compressor housing on it, are all of the bullseye's smaller?
 
Looks good. I didn't have to dent my water pipe either with my PTE 50 t04e cover. However it was pretty close to the water pipe. I still dented it a bit because everyone was saying you had to.

Now I think we should inform people that it might not be necessary.
 
IPT said:
That is a T04E cover.. All the T04B covers that bullseye uses have that funny arrow on them. Your setup must just come together just right.

That is a 2G exhaust manifold right?


ok...*whew*....i feel better...haha...:p


yes, its a 2g manifold.
 
Narco said:
I don't think that's a spacer. It's just the flange on the bullseye housing, it's pretty thick.

I didn't have to dent my water pipe with my PTE 5031 with the T04E housing either.

One thing though, my 50 trim has a .60 A/R compressor housing on it, are all of the bullseye's smaller?



yea, theres no spacer. unless hes talking about the thick ass steel 7cm turbo gasket between the manifold and turbo. i also have the mitsu 4 Layer exhaust manifold gasket. maybe that is also the reason why?



i dont know about your question w/ the .60 a/r compressor housing compared to bulleyes...
 
RedTurboEclipse said:
Looks good. I didn't have to dent my water pipe either with my PTE 50 t04e cover. However it was pretty close to the water pipe. I still dented it a bit because everyone was saying you had to.

Now I think we should inform people that it might not be necessary.



i agree. i was about to dent it when i thought i should put everything on so i know where to make the dent at. well, like i said i put it all on and i was in shock! haha..but yes, people should try putting it on before they start denting things they dont need to dent.
 
clipise said:
i dont know about your question w/ the .60 a/r compressor housing compared to bulleyes...


You don't usually hear people talking about A/R ratio's for comp covers, they usually talk about the turbine side when it comes to this. I guess the comp cover still has an A/R? but is this ever discussed or are they normally just referred to by their size such as T04E, B, S, etc?

As for the Bullseye turbine housing, they don't specifically state what their A/R is but the word is that its around .55.
 
daren_p said:
You don't usually hear people talking about A/R ratio's for comp covers, they usually talk about the turbine side when it comes to this. I guess the comp cover still has an A/R? but is this ever discussed or are they normally just referred to by their size such as T04E, B, S, etc?

Yeah, they still have A/R's. It means area divided by radius, ratio. At any given point in the housing, the inside area(pi*the diameter) of that particular point divided by the distance from the center of that point in the housing to the center of the wheel is .50.

I hope that makes sense.:rolleyes:

daren_p said:
As for the Bullseye turbine housing, they don't specifically state what their A/R is but the word is that its around .55.

It says .50 A/R on the housing
 
Narco said:
Yeah, they still have A/R's. It means area divided by radius, ratio. At any given point in the housing, the inside area(pi*the diameter) of that particular point divided by the distance from the center of that point in the housing to the center of the wheel is .50.

I hope that makes sense.:rolleyes:



It says .50 A/R on the housing


Ya I know what A/R is, just didn't know if they referred to comp covers like that, since they always just say the name. The Bullseye .50 A/R are you talking comp cover or turbine housing? I was talking turbine housing, I didn't think they advertised what the actual A/R was, they just gave a range & .55 seems to be what people had come up with.
 
Oh, word. My bad. I was talking about the compressor housing.

Im pretty sure the exhaust is a .63 A/R
 
You guys are lucky and im screwed. I have a 6152r with the 4" cover and even with my water pipe dented im having a hard time getting it to fit. The a/r on the compressor side is .70.
 
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