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timing help after reading first logs on 2g

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ryno

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Nov 1, 2005
boise, Idaho
I recently bought a logger. FYI Im a noob when it comes to tuning but pretty much know the rest of the stuff when moding cars.

I was wondering what the deal is with my timing. While just sitting in neutral my car reads 7-8 degrees timing, which I was told is perfect. But when i just drive around town normal(like 2000-3500 rpm) it reads constantly 28-33 degrees timing. And when i am logging and make hard pulls in 3rd gear to around 5500-6000 rpm it also reads up to 28-33 degrees timing. Would someone please explain whats wrong with my situation. Why is timing perfect in neutral or in gear at 1000 or less rpm's, but as soon as it reaches 2000+ rpms my timing sky rockets?

Here are my mods:
ported out EVO III 16g, XS FMIC, short route IC piping, Greddy RS BOV, Hahn 3" o2, Hahn 3" down pipe eliminating the cat, 3" thermal R&D cat back, ported stock manifold, walbro 190, AFPR w/liquid filled gauge, injen intake, K&N FIPK, hallman pro MBC, brand new OEM tranny, ACT2600 clutch, under the hood shift kit, short shifter, boost gauge, air fuel gauge, oil pressure gauge, 1g black-top CAS, pocketlogger with safc2(safc not yet installed)

Thanks to any help in advance
 
I jsut dont want to go WOT until I can figure what to do. With that much timing adavance thats just asking to blow something at WOT> Does anybody have some ideas?
 
The high timing isn't maintained under open loop when you go WOT. At part throttle, the ECU adds a bunch of timing since the airflow signal is low. As soon as it enters open loop, the timing drops and the ECU adjusts accordingly for a maximum of 16 degrees on the stock setup above 2.1 g/rev with no additional airflow subtraction via AFC, MAFT, etc. Here's a sample of another log from the tuning section:

RPM-O2v-Timing
2556 .95 23
2656 .93 20
2768 .93 16
2892 .93 16
3020 .93 10
3168 .97 8
3328 .97 5
3504 .95 5
3704 .95 6
3900 .95 8
4064 .95 8
4288 .95 8
4436 .95 8
4612 .93 9
4816 .93 9
4952 .93 10
5152 .93 9
5272 .91 11
5436 .91 12
5580 .91 12
5756 .91 13
5888 .91 14
6008 .91 16
6152 .91 17
6272 .89 17
6400 .89 17
6516 .89 17
6640 .89 19
6724 .87 38

You can see where timing dips hard as the ECU goes into open loop at 2556 RPM and where it does the same thing again at the end of the run as the throttle plate closes at 6724 RPM.

Run a pull in 3rd gear like Ty already mentioned and post the log.
 
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