The Official "What's this DSM worth?" Thread

[bombout800]

ok so the fork boot is on the side of the trans right? So just take back the boot a little and with a little light i should be able to see it?

 

[lucid15]

What? is there no stereo in there? i cant tell

 

[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

Ask him to take it for a test drive. Then take it to your house. Put it up on jack stands and give it a once over. To find out if it does have an ACT, the clutch fork protrudes from the transmission bell housing here is a picture from TRE's website on how to shim the clutch ball. Nevermind the red line and text in the picture. But you can get a glimpse of the clutch from this hole all you need to do it pull the boot out and shine a flashlight up in there towards the engine side. Look for a yellow pressure plate.

 

[crimsonGST]

Just keep checking in the classified. There are always nicely modded cars, that usually have someone to vouch for it, and for a fairly decent price.

 

[Bud92gsx]

Yes check out classifieds..Or check out modifiedcartrader.com..If you don't want to start stock?

 

[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

Ok so get the rail the pump and the injectors..

Why do you suggest him to get a new rail when the stock rail has proven to flow well?

Since the guy says the car runs pretty good when warmed up I'm guessing it's not a problem with the injectors but probably the coolant temperature sensor that is bad.

I would not believe anything the guy has told you about the car. Do your own investigation and diagnosis of the car. It seems like he doesn't know too much about DSM's. Anyone that knows enough about these cars can get them running and then running well with the knowledge here on this site.

I can already tell you the car used to be tan/champagne color by looking at the engine bay. You need to watch out for shotty body work and paint. Also, the top of the roof should be black and not the body color. And stock mirrors are black also. It was probably a cheap paint job since he did not do the engine bay and I'm guessing the door jambs are the original color also. If you're not afraid to work on it and restore it back to a respectable state then I say buy it, fix it, drive it. But, if you are not up to the challenge then pass on this one and go for the next.

Since this would be your first DSM I would rather you find one that is in relatively good running and physical condition and build upon it from there. If you are unfamiliar with these cars you will only give yourself headaches trying to figure out someone else's mess. Because if you do get this car and have problems with it. You will blame the car for it and it will be the stereotypical unreliable DSM story we hear way too often around here.

In the end... I'd buy it...

 

[crimsonGST]

I prefer to sniff my radiator when my car is hot.
After driving hard, I put my face over the radiator cap and unscrew.

I prefer to use my teeth personally. Make sure and have your buddy watch the car as you leave. Look for smoke density and color. Also watch the alignment of the wheels as you drive away. It might have been wrecked before

 

[crimsonGST]

Why do you suggest him to get a new rail when the stock rail has proven to flow well?

Since the guy says the car runs pretty good when warmed up I'm guessing it's not a problem with the injectors but probably the coolant temperature sensor that is bad.

I would not believe anything the guy has told you about the car. Do your own investigation and diagnosis of the car. It seems like he doesn't know too much about DSM's. Anyone that knows enough about these cars can get them running and then running well with the knowledge here on this site.

I can already tell you the car used to be tan/champagne color by looking at the engine bay. You need to watch out for shotty body work and paint. Also, the top of the roof should be black and not the body color. And stock mirrors are black also. It was probably a cheap paint job since he did not do the engine bay and I'm guessing the door jambs are the original color also. If you're not afraid to work on it and restore it back to a respectable state then I say buy it, fix it, drive it. But, if you are not up to the challenge then pass on this one and go for the next.

Since this would be your first DSM I would rather you find one that is in relatively good running and physical condition and build upon it from there. If you are unfamiliar with these cars you will only give yourself headaches trying to figure out someone else's mess. Because if you do get this car and have problems with it. You will blame the car for it and it will be the stereotypical unreliable DSM story we hear way too often around here.

In the end... I'd buy it...

This was the end all, to be all, of answers. It brought a tear to my eye!

 

[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

This was the end all, to be all, of answers. It brought a tear to my eye!

I speak the truth!

 

[Bud92gsx]

PROJECT..... You are really smart, But....I was saying get the rail the pump and the injectors just because if hes going to do anything, hes going to want them anyways.. Not because I don't know alot-well your half true..I'm learning everday.. Just like all of the rest of us. So please dont bash me on this particular thread. Thers another thread I frequent that you can bash me all you want..

 

[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

Sorry it was not meant to bash you. Only the first sentence was for you. And the rest was for the OP to ponder.

 

[Bud92gsx]

It's ok man, just thought you were talkin trash without knowing me..Anyway i'm bud, now you know me...Continue...Ohh and your post was truely helpful by the way.

 

[JStrateger]

Looks good for a project car but the price seems a bit high to me. $1700 for a car that doesn't run? What you do know assuming he knowns what hes talking about:

Pros:
AWD
4G63

Cons:
Needs Injectors - $100+
Transmission Rebuild - $800+
Shift Cables - $45
New Tires - $220+

$1700? I don't think so. I would try to get him to lower his price because you won't truly know whats wrong with the car until you get to working on it, for all you know the motor could be knocking.

As for parts, ebay or dealership for me. I buy OEM or Name brand parts only.

 

[bombout800]

well being as i live an hour to an hour and a half away.. i guess i could research a shop in that are maybe the one that the motor was built at and see if they mind that i use a jack. Also how will i tell if the car is actually a 6 bolt? Please someone let me know what i should ask for the car!! I need some advice! Thanks PROJECTGS for the picture. I found that after searching. It took me all of about 4 mins. Thats why i reposted 4 mins after the post before!

 

[TwIzTiDsM]

I would waite for a better deal. hes asking 2 much more a car that doesnt run. I got Eclipse for $1300 with a blown engine and modified. Now i have A rebuilt motor and almost everything is new and have a total of $3700 into it. Save your money sale the honda and buy a good running DSM

 

[DsmJapSpyder]

i used to shop on craigslist.org, but i found that most of the cars on there have some kind of problem.
take it to a mec, that you trust.

 

[doober75]

if you want a project id say buy it. but if you want something to buy and drive now id take the other advice and save up for a better DSM.

 

[housegsx]

What does everyone think about this car? Fair price? I think they were asking $1k more a while ago. I pass it on the car lot everyone once in a while but never stopped to take a look yet. I'm looking for an affordable awd daily driver.

...And I know, the flares would have to go.

1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD Turbo...Only 83K FREE WARRANTY

Does anyone have any insight to offer about this one?

I just got back from looking it over and test driving it. Got them to come down to $2,800 with a new tire and battery.

The Good:

Only 83k miles
Shifts good and seems to run good


The Bad:

It's ugly- needs vinyl, fake CF, flame graphics, chrome flares, chicken wire grill removed - No biggie
Needs inspected in December
Needs tires
Probably timing belt job
some rust
Door hinge needs fixed
needs a headliner
Stereo doesn't work(I have an extra one)
Power locks aren't work(Not really an issue)

 

[white90gsx]

This is my talon-http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/876655679.html

for this talon-http://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/870737911.html


It has hks cams not fidanza.


It has lots of mods more than me and my body is shot rust behind the side skirts

But I spent lots of time fixing neglect and i don't wanna do it again..

HE IS ALSO THROWING IN $1500 TO. I asked him if its just the clutch then ill drive it home he said go for it but he tried that but couldn't pull it from 1st but you have to match rpms to do that.

What should I do?

 

[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

You should fix your links so that we don't have to copy and paste them.

If it really is just the clutch then I would go for it. At least in that one picture it looks pretty strait.

Pop ups FTW!! Hawtness!!

 

[white90gsx]

I know this kid paid a performance shop to do everything.

 

[giovanniv]

His eclipse looks alot cleaner IMO but you take that risk of there being other things messed up with it. But either way i would do it cause with that extra 1500 he is throwing in you can buy yourself a nice clutch and fix whatever else is wrong with it (if there is something else wrong with it).

 

[white90gsx]

Thats what I say...I could fix just about anything for 1500. Even if the bottom end was trashed.

 

[lucid15]

What are your guyses thoughts on this....1995 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD 120K clean title!!!

 

[Bud92gsx]

for 4200 thats a damm good deal sir..looks like it has been well maintained which is a big plus with dsm's..I almost want to drive to oreggon and buy it from under you..JUST KIDDING GUY!!! Buy it!!!