SSAC FMIC install T28 T25

[emoguitarboy]

Hey guys, rather than dredging up a Dead Thread I'm going to continue one of my own.

I know you can use the stock LICP to redirect the flow but I want a hard pipe system and that idea doen't really "flow" with me.

I also know you can modify the turbo housing with a hacksaw...

What I'm wondering (and calling uppon the DSM comunity to answer) is if I use a U pipe to do this, what size do I need to make it either over the crossmember or under the cross member, what length leg I need.

 

[PieEyedPiper]

People have suggested using this before.
http://www.extremeturbosystems.com/...alon-T25-Pipe-[-2GDSM_T25-]/product_info.html

 

[BoostedinSoFla]

Or this: DEJON | Powerhouse Part # COP-U 180deg 'U' Pipe for T25-T28 - $110 (Halfway down the page)

 

[emoguitarboy]

People have suggested using this before.
ETS (95-99) 2G DSM Eclipse/Talon T25 Pipe [ 2GDSM_T25 ]

Hmm, I'm not a huge fan of the V pipe, it seems like its a bit to sharp of a turn... Thanks for the info tho, I might look at it.

Or this: DEJON | Powerhouse Part # COP-U 180deg 'U' Pipe for T25-T28 - $110 (Halfway down the page)

note for searchers: its under 2G FMIC section... cause Dejon won't let you properly link their page...

I'd still prefer to get a full U pipe if I can... and Dejon is a little overpriced when it comes to stuff like this... thanks for the help thus far, keep the help comming.

 

[DSM_PWR]

OR... you can do what i did and have an exhaust shop just weld and make you the EXACT same pipe shown on RRE and Dejon

This guy did it for me for $15 and works perfect!

Ill post pics of it when i get home

Oh and yea that V does look like a sharp point but ive never had trouble with it. Its not a permanet solution as im doing a 50trim swap so its just a "for now" solution

 

[emoguitarboy]

Ok, I might try that... I've also been involved in a thread on a local forum and I've been looking into the alternatives to air to air... like LAIC... or the idea of a liquid nitrogen cooler (that one's yet to be thought out...)

 

[DSM_PWR]

Its a lil dirty because its raining outside but you get the point, dont pay $70-$100 when you can get an exhaust shop to make you one

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[firefightermdc]

^^that bend looks better than the dejontool!! muffler shop FTW! I never thought of that good idea

 

[hypnoticpimp]

Not a fan of the sharp U bend... i think the best thing to do is (p.i.t.a tho) take out the turbo, cut off the factory bend, and use a silicon coupler with a 90 deg. bend and point it towards the driver side...

 

[firefightermdc]

well you ARE going to upgrade the turbo anyway right?!? so just put on a 16g, 18g, 20g etc. and use the j-pipe!

 

[emoguitarboy]

Not a fan of the sharp U bend... i think the best thing to do is (p.i.t.a tho) take out the turbo, cut off the factory bend, and use a silicon coupler with a 90 deg. bend and point it towards the driver side...

Currently that is the direction that the turbo is facing... I need to get it to connect to the FMIC setup for a downward facing turbo. I don't like the idea of modifying the turbo housing...

well you ARE going to upgrade the turbo anyway right?!? so just put on a 16g, 18g, 20g etc. and use the j-pipe!

Actually not for a while, I'd like to get as much power out of the T28 as possible... then when I do upgrade, I'm going with the FP3052, new downpipe setup and most like a different intercooler, like a LAIC or something to keep the turbo lag down, currently lag isn't my issue.

I think the V-bend is the best bet so far... but no one has the measurements to make it under or over the crossmember?

 

[DSM_PWR]

Ok so lets think about this...

There isnt a way to fit a U Bend above the crossmember (hence the reason for V bend style)

Second, If you put a U Bend which will have to go UNDER the crossmember... You risk the chance of bottoming out and slamming that pipe. Not to say that it will definetly happen but a better peace in mind

 

[firefightermdc]

ooo my bad bro, I didn't see the t28, that's a good turbo, no need to upgrade for a while!

 

[GsXtacY325]

DSM_PWR thank you for posting pics, i have yet to actually see a v-pipe installed on SSAC FMIC kit until now So do you by chance happen to know dimensions of the v-pipe or i guess how did you go about the process of having the shop make the v-pipe? Did you bring your car to the muffler shop Front Mount installed (but stock piping) and install the LICP at the shop and go from there? Or did you take measurements and tell the shop how to bend the pipe from there? please explain!

I am in the same boat as emoguitarboy. Want to max out the fp t-28 before going big, but needed a solution to install my SSAC FMIC. by any chance to you have an xbox gamertag emoguitarboy? I swear i played with someone on COD4 with that name the other day.

 

[DSM_PWR]

what i did was print out a pic of the pipe from dejon tool. the printout didnt come out actual size obviously but i did the math by comparing pieces of the pipe and expanded the dimensions. I took the "correct" dimensions and the pic an exhaust shop and the guy did it without even lookin at my car.

When i go for lunch ill measure out mine and post up the dimensions

 

[GsXtacY325]

what i did was print out a pic of the pipe from dejon tool. the printout didnt come out actual size obviously but i did the math by comparing pieces of the pipe and expanded the dimensions. I took the "correct" dimensions and the pic an exhaust shop and the guy did it without even lookin at my car.

When i go for lunch ill measure out mine and post up the dimensions

awesome. thank you. would be much appreciated

 

[DSM_PWR]

Sorry it took me so long. i completely forgot. But incase anyone else needs it for future reference just take this pic to any exhaust shop and im sure they can make it for less than vendor price. I got mine made for $15

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[emoguitarboy]

You are a god my friend, thanks for those.

 

[GsXtacY325]

A god indeed! once again thanks DSM_PWR.

 

[cool_g_83]

I made one of these myself a few years back when I had the T25/SSAC combination. Here are some pics to add to this threads overall worth
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When designing this, I didn't want to simply have 1 cut, because that would be too sharp of a bend. So instead I had 4 cuts seen here:

source: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/50452364-post11.html

Only thing I didn't do was bead roll the edges, but I didn't have any problems with it blowing off.

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A little closer so you can see how it was pieced back and welded together. As you can see, mine was not perfect, but it worked.

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Some pics of it installed on the car can be found here:
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/151040292-post6.html

Hope this helps people with the T25-28/SSAC combo!

 

[DSMunknown]

^ That thing is f**king hideous!

Greg, it's not you. It's me and my relationship with J-pipes. You can see more here.

 

[cool_g_83]

You're right, I probably should have painted it so I could win the 92586 car shows I entered that month

I don't really care if its not 100% effecient. It got me through an install, and transitioned me into another where it is no long in use. It was only temporary and my car didn't die. I was not looking to max out my T25 in terms of airflow. END OF STORY. You must really hate these threads....why post in them

FYI: I read the thread you linked to....neat. I agree, more turns in a pipe is bad, but that is stating the obvious. For this given application in the given amount of time I had for my install, this WORKED. In terms of preparing me for a larger turbo without having any downtime, this WORKED. Preventing damage to by car by avoiding running the pipe under the crossmember WORKED.

Maybe I should put a disclaimer on these posts for those who are in my situation saying "If you want maximum airflow out of your T25, don't do this mod. It is very ugly and DSMunknown will point that out to you everytime you try to help someone else out." Or perhaps I should just delete my previous post because "it looks f**king hideous" and won't help a single person in need. WTF

Anthony, it's not you. Its me and I'm having a bad night, sorry if this came off as a personal attack.

 

[No_Skillz]

You're right, I probably should have painted it so I could win the 92586 car shows I entered that month

Butcha coulda at least polished it up.

 

[cool_g_83]

It's been in the shed for a year Plus I just moved not to long ago and didn't want to go buy all the tools/equipment needed to polish a pipe I no longer use.

 

[emoguitarboy]

Well, I was going to use the stock LICP hack... it didn't fit, there was that stupid cross member thing in the way. Luckly my brother had a piece of 2.25" pipe that we used...

I had to remove the main radiator fan and hook up the AC fan in its place, but I have some high CFM replacements on the way.