Should I need bpr8es??

[Slippi84]

I have been threw 2 sets of bpr7es in like the past week and a half I mean granted I'm trying to street tune the car and it might run lean for a little while trying to tune but still these plugs shouldn't b e going this fast. I don't think even with a tune that's off a little(riches 11:1 leanest 16:1) that the plugs should be going like that. I'm only boosting to like 10psi too that's what's got me stumped. Timing is pulled and all. I'm not seeing any knock or any abnormal readings in the link. I guess I'm just trying to see how serious of a setup you need to run 8's. From what I"ve seen 6's are stock type cars 7's are for light to mild setups and 8's are for very hot race type setups but my car is pretty modded.

 

[bmxrider154]

The 7's should be fine. You need to start all over if those afr's are true. Is the 16.1 at idle or decel? Pump gas?

 

[SBR Joe]

BPR8ES plugs should only be needed when running 25+ psi, at only 10psi you could probably use 6's but 7's shouldnt be fouling out that quick.


Joe
SBR

 

[CanadianTSi]

at only 10psi you could probably use 6's
SBR

I agree.

1 set of 7's would last me a whole year at 24psi.

 

[Slippi84]

Pump and the 16:1 is like like decell. For the most part i's like 14:xx while cruising I have idle a little high due to venting(yes I know it's only till I have money for the new maft gen2) so at like 1200 it's a little rich like 11:1 maybe 12:1. how much timing should I be pulling and around about what rpm point do I need to pull the most? Like I had it zeroed out at first but for a 1g i know it has a aggressive timing map.

 

[Slippi84]

Oh great just got off the phone with Innovative when the lm-1 box starts to read error open pump tat means the sensor is going bad so I been trying to get a base tune with a ####ed up sensor that's super.

 

[bmxrider154]

Oh great just got off the phone with Innovative when the lm-1 box starts to read error open pump tat means the sensor is going bad so I been trying to get a base tune with a ####ed up sensor that's super.

Bosch sensors love to go bad. For now on, if I see any afr's out of wack, I suspect the WB sensor off the bat.

 

[Slippi84]

Yeah looks like i'm gonna have to hit up innovative for another one that's like 80 bucs because the dealer wants liek 200 bucs or something crazy. I'm a wholesale parts counterman and I can't find anyone that will beat that 80 bucs from innovatie anyone else know any cheap alternatives?

 

[Slippi84]

yeah nvm the dealer hooked me up with my companies pricing like $85 and I don't have to wait a week for it to come from anyone they had it in stock.

 

[bmxrider154]

Check out MAperformance.com as well.

 

[Slippi84]

Check out MAperformance.com as well.

Thanks but the thing is I don't want to one go threw any more plugs even though they only cost me like 1.50 and two I want the car to run right like yesterday so the fact that I could get it today for 85 I could live with.

 

[project_tsi]

I run BR8ES at 30 daily psi on pump 93 and meth. Yes, BR8ES, no protruded tip. Less knock. I changed them out about every 3k miles or so. The ONLY downside is they are a little less cold friendly, but it clears up after about 10-15 seconds of idling.

 

[Slippi84]

I run BR8ES at 30 daily psi on pump 93 and meth. Yes, BR8ES, no protruded tip. Less knock. I changed them out about every 3k miles or so. The ONLY downside is they are a little less cold friendly, but it clears up after about 10-15 seconds of idling.

yeah but 30psi on pump will make plenty of heat especialy on a stroker. The idea of a colder plug so I could run more timing and boost on pump did cross my mind though in more of a performance kinda way .

By the way I figured out my problem my fuel pressure was set at stock 33.7 because I was trying to eliminate things when the car first wouldn't start after the fresh 6 bolt swap. Turned the pressure up set the dead time and global to the correct settings and it runs a lot better and the plugs are stillc ool that I just put in. tomorrow is fine tuning with my new wideband sensor on pump gas.

The bpr8es are still in question ad like dan I want to run a lot of boost dialy on pump???

 

[CanadianTSi]

Stock fuel pressure for a 1G is 37, which is where your should be set.

I've been running BR8ES's this year, so far there fine for daily driving.

 

[BrokenTsi]

I run 8's. Just regular ngk's from advanced for $1.77 ea. No problems here, I run 27psi on pump, 23ish degrees of timing. No problems here. Plugs always look clean, and never foul out.

 

[Slippi84]

I run 8's. Just regular ngk's from advanced for $1.77 ea. No problems here, I run 27psi on pump, 23ish degrees of timing. No problems here. Plugs always look clean, and never foul out.

What turbo and what engine size(2.0/2.3l)

 

[Slippi84]

Stock fuel pressure for a 1G is 37, which is where your should be set.

I've been running BR8ES's this year, so far there fine for daily driving.

Fic injectors are rated at 43.5psi that's why it's there

 

[CanadianTSi]

Fic injectors are rated at 43.5psi that's why it's there

Your ECU is assuming 37psi base pressure.

 

[Slippi84]

Your ECU is assuming 37psi base pressure.

Thanks why you change the deadtime in dsmlink

 

[BrokenTsi]

What turbo and what engine size(2.0/2.3l)

2.0, gt3082r .82 a/r

 

[dsm-onster]

Just to add. . . I run NGK BPR7ES plugs at 30 psi, 2.0L, Fp2X cams (not really lopey) and water/alky injection (this probably helps). I have run these plugs for 15K so far. And they still look very well.

 

[RipperXX]

wow, I used to have to change my plugs every 3k.... Corse it was untuned, still is actually. I have just done more to it now.

God I can't wait to get to GA and get this bi*** to a dyno shop!