rather large fmic on 14b

[Fast66691GSX]

Hey Everybody,

I just got an awesome deal on a fmic for 140 shipped. It’s 33x6x2.7 with 2.5 inch inlets. I have been searching and basically everybody says that a fmic on a 14b is bad,because of the added lag,is there anything else bad? I just wanted to know are there any advantages at all?What if the 14b is ported? I will be upgrading to a larger turbo, in the furture, but not right at this moment , so should I stick with my modified factory intercooler with 2.5 inlet and outlets that will be on the car when i finsh putting it back together or put on the fmic, will the lag be really that noticeable? If it matters here are my mods:

All free mods done
Extreme boost controller at 15 psi
Hard intercooler piping
Accel thundersport wires
Ported 14b
Modifed smic

Below is a picture of the front mount:

 

[Fast66691GSX]

i also have a K and N filter and home depot intake pipe if it matters,thanks in advance

 

[kpt4321]

It's not going to be any more of a lag problem with a 14b than it would be with a huge turbo.

Also, the added lag is in the order of a tenth of a second, which means it's not enough to worry about.

I'm not a big fan of that FMIC. It's far too long and too narrow.

 

[Fast66691GSX]

Yeah i really don't like "skinny" fmic for the most part but i mean hey for the price i really couldn't beat it,if anything else i can resell it, Thanks for the responce though

 

[blcknspo0ln]

that looks like that eBay intercooler everyone is going crazy about..

anyway, i say do it because it fits the 1g perfectly [ even the 2g ] and you'll be all setup if you decide to go bigger in the future [ which you will :laugh: ]

 

[Nabyar]

That intercooler isn't anything compared to other ones out there. You should be fine.

 

[Fast66691GSX]

Yeah,that's what i am thinking, i honestly don't know if it's the ebay one everbody's been talking about or not(not the street imports but the other one), Does anybody have a intercooler this size on a 1st gen i would like to see how it looks with the bumper cover on and how the pipes where ran.

 

[dsmturboawd]

that's retarded to put on a 14b car. a 14b car with a stock sidemount will be doing circles around you.

whats the #'s on that intercooler. it looks to be one of those ebay unknowns that perform terribly.

 

[crankbender]

KPT why don't you like the long narrows on the 1G...they nestle into the mouth so well....

What is that thing made of aluminum??? it looks funny in the pick.

It isn't gonna hurt him that much to be honest. They put the smic on tho because then it won't heat soak from absorbed heat off the radiator when you are at a stop light.

 

[DSMJim]

Thats looks like a Ford Powerstroke Diesel intercooler. They are a very large extruded fin design. They take the cooler and cut it into three pieces and put on new end tanks. They are an OK intercooler but do have drawbacks over a regular tube and fin or bar and plate setup.

If your really dieing to have a large front mount on the front of your car and want it mainly for looks this will be fine and is cheap. I doubt it will hurt performance as it will flow more than the stock side mount. It may cause a bit more lag as your filling up a much larger area, but should not cause any pressure drop as it flows so well. If you run higher than 15psi it will probably help.

Best way to find out is record your before and after spool up characteristics and go to a dyno before and after. Then you will know if you gained or lost.

 

[Fast66691GSX]

Yeah i understand what all of you guys are saying,the dude i am getting it from really doesn't know what type of intercoler it is so when i get it it flow tested and tested for leaks,like i said if push come to shove and i don't like it i will just resell it.,thanks for you alls help

 

[Spidey]

Originally posted by dsmturboawd
that's retarded to put on a 14b car. a 14b car with a stock sidemount will be doing circles around you.

Somehow I highly doubt that. An SMIC upgrade alone makes a huge difference, I imagine an FMIC would be even better. I'm curious as to why you think an FMIC should not be used with a 14b, this is the 2nd or 3rd time in the past few days I've seen you say this.

 

[Fast66691GSX]

From what i have been searching on this topic,the main reason people say not to put on on is because of added lag,but then if you look at t-25 and 14b's they spool very quickly so wil the lag make that much of a difference,also alot of people say that the money is better put somewhere else,however when you get a good deal and plan to upgrade turbos in the furture i don't really see anything wrong with getting a fmic.Thanks for all you guys help

 

[Spidey]

Originally posted by Fast66691GSX
From what i have been searching on this topic,the main reason people say not to put on on is because of added lag,but then if you look at t-25 and 14b's they spool very quickly so wil the lag make that much of a difference,also alot of people say that the money is better put somewhere else,however when you get a good deal and plan to upgrade turbos in the furture i don't really see anything wrong with getting a fmic.Thanks for all you guys help

Supporting mods are recommended, and then shunned, time and time again. I see nothing wrong with an FMIC on a 14b, even if it did slow the spoolup a little, it would be well worth it. I'm curious where else the money would be better spent(assuming you already have the basic mods like intake/exhaust/boost controller/ic pipes/bov). Possibly fuel mods I suppose, but I think the FMIC would be a better single upgrade without requiring anything else.

 

[Fast66691GSX]

Very Very true, i probably would benifit more from an exhausr at this momment but that's coming up next after the intercooler,i think i am just going to do it and see how it goes basically

 

[wastefuldreamer]

I just seen that intercooler on the trader. Emailed the guy literally minutes ago.

 

[ianv3]

Originally posted by Spidey
Somehow I highly doubt that. An SMIC upgrade alone makes a huge difference, I imagine an FMIC would be even better. I'm curious as to why you think an FMIC should not be used with a 14b, this is the 2nd or 3rd time in the past few days I've seen you say this.

people making the best times ever with 14b's arent running stock piping and stock intercoolers because theyre short on cash.

the intercooler above is made to bolt directly on to a 92-95 civic and flows like complete garbage. like said above, it is ebay trash.

thank you.

 

[Fast66691GSX]

After heearing everybody's input i don't think i am going to get it. I wouldn't mind having a fmic but the one i posted the picture of people are bashing left and right so i more than likely will not get it.Thanks everybody

 

[TwoLiterV8Eater]

Putting a FMIC on a 14b is a good idea. You don't want to run a huge turbo on a smic, so why not get the FMIC first? I did it that way, and took about 3/10s off my 1/4 mile time. The only warning I can give is to increase your fuel mods if you add a FMIC. After running my FMIC for awhile on stock injectors I blew the headgasket at the track. It is possible that they werent related but I doubt it. I think it is because a cooler intake charge will allow the ECU to advance the timing more. I could be wrong though. Anyways, getting a FMIC is a good idea in general if you can support it with your other mods.

 

[Fast66691GSX]

I think i will focus on my fuel system and exhaust and hopefully buy this summer have the money for another fmic,thanks again everybody.

 

[91awd]

Sounds like a better plan to me. I put my fmic on while I still had my 14b but I had an exhaust first.

 

[wastefuldreamer]

The guy emailed me back and said he still has it, But im not interested,.

 

[ZyklonBZombie]

that looks kinda like the ic on the mazdaspeed protege.

 

[kpt4321]

Originally posted by crankbender
KPT why don't you like the long narrows on the 1G...they nestle into the mouth so well....

It's not fitment that I am concerned with, but flow (and pressure drop).

Long and narrow is bad for both of them.

 

[ianv3]

Originally posted by TwoLiterV8Eater
Putting a FMIC on a 14b is a good idea. You don't want to run a huge turbo on a smic, so why not get the FMIC first? I did it that way, and took about 3/10s off my 1/4 mile time. The only warning I can give is to increase your fuel mods if you add a FMIC. After running my FMIC for awhile on stock injectors I blew the headgasket at the track. It is possible that they werent related but I doubt it. I think it is because a cooler intake charge will allow the ECU to advance the timing more. I could be wrong though. Anyways, getting a FMIC is a good idea in general if you can support it with your other mods.

did you not read above? why do you believe a fmic on a 14b is a good idea.

a 14b is not a huge turbo.

adding a fmic had nothing to do wth your headgasket.