Quick question fmic

[gcihlar]

Installing intercooler what do I do with my power steering lines? Pic below I want to keep my power steering.


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[007jimmy]

When I did my FMIC I put the power steering line behind the support bracket in the middle. I have the VRSF kit and there was zero issues running my lines that way.

 

[SlowChild3]

Some people cut them and splice a line in. Im going to try to keep my cooler. I don't see why it wont fit. Just cut some extra room. What kit do you have?

 

[Seamus]

remove them form the bracket. i squeeze the sides with pliers to keep the line form kinking and cutting off flow, then SLOWLY and carefully bend a little at a time. Then re adjust pliers, SLOWLy bend a littlemore. If oyu take your time and are patient, oyu can bend them down and up against the core supportwithout kinking them or breaking them.

 

[gcihlar]

thanks guys put them behind the support bracket, worked greaT!

Some people cut them and splice a line in. Im going to try to keep my cooler. I don't see why it wont fit. Just cut some extra room. What kit do you have?

Vrsf

 

[bertrenolds]

I just removed the cooler completely and put a short hose running from one port on the power steering pump to the other. There really is no need for it and it really is in the way. Also, short route FMIC is always the way to go!

 

[XiKeiyaZI]

"There's no need for it" ?

You're kidding, right? Do you understand how hot that fluid can get, or even consider the concept that it's there for a reason. By not allowing an avenue for the fluid to vent, it will expand, obtain and retain a considerable amount of heat, and will eventually cause damage to the power steering system. The cooler line is there for a reason.

 

[U8NTRDY]

I'm running a huge front mount and I also deleted the power steering cooler as most DSM'ers do. No noticeable change in handling and I've never had a problem (knock on wood). Been running the car this was for over a year now.

 

[TSIturbo91]

"There's no need for it" ?

You're kidding, right? Do you understand how hot that fluid can get, or even consider the concept that it's there for a reason. By not allowing an avenue for the fluid to vent, it will expand, obtain and retain a considerable amount of heat, and will eventually cause damage to the power steering system. The cooler line is there for a reason.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_fluids

Just a link on the subject. But to add to the subject every fluid has properties that change with temperature. Such as water and automatic transmission fluid. At a point of the heat curve one turns to steam and the other expands. That's why they say don't check it when it's cold. It has a thermal expansion property.

Anyway the cooler is there because the design engineer figured out it would be the bare minimum needed to maintain proper function of the system. At a certain temperature the molecular structure of the fluid is broken down and degraded. That could lead to leaks, improper function of the pump and even premature failure of the equipment.

 

[bryanwheat]

If you are out doing road coarse or auto x i could see a use for it, but on normal everyday driving it is just fine without it. I've personally deleted that on more cars than most people have owned. There are tons of cars out there that have no revision for power steering coolers.

 

[SlowChild3]

If you do delete it id look into some better fluid.

 

[Grizbomb1684]

I deleted mine jus linking the two hoses have had no issues so far

 

[gcihlar]

anybody know the part numbers for the throttle body elbow to throttle body gasket, the j- pipe to turbo gasket and bov gasket... numbers for at autozone or oriely's or even napa. would work.

or any sites i can order just these 3 gaskets with out ordering the whole turbo gasket set. if possible to get them from one of the 3 stores that is awesome other wise if anyone can point me in the direction of the cheapest website.

 

[bradselph]

23.99 at advance

part number ES 72787

Buy Felpro Turbo Mtg. Gasket Set ES 72787 at Advance Auto Parts

used this set myself a few times works good
not sure were to get a bov gasket i always made my own

 

[gcihlar]

23.99 at advance

part number ES 72787

Buy Felpro Turbo Mtg. Gasket Set ES 72787 at Advance Auto Parts

used this set myself a few times works good
not sure were to get a bov gasket i always made my own

thats the thing i dont need the whole set just the 3 gaskets i listed tb elbow, bov, and j-pipe

 

[MY1GDSM]

"There's no need for it" ?

You're kidding, right? Do you understand how hot that fluid can get, or even consider the concept that it's there for a reason. By not allowing an avenue for the fluid to vent, it will expand, obtain and retain a considerable amount of heat, and will eventually cause damage to the power steering system. The cooler line is there for a reason.

As a counter point to this and as other are saying.

Not that your wrong...

But, I've been running mine like this for many years and have had no issues... .

To quote ETS as you "have to" remove the lines to run their kits

the power-steering cooler will be removed. After selling over 1000 kits without any resulting power steering problems, this does not present any type of long-term issue

Taken from ETS RACE FMIC

When I did my FMIC I put the power steering line behind the support bracket in the middle. I have the VRSF kit and there was zero issues running my lines that way.

The OP has a 1g you have to run the pipes threw the "D" Shaped holes with most Short route kits which can cause some clearance issues as you already have to enlarge them.

 

[assassin3117]

I've also deleted mine. Did it almost four years ago and till this day no issue with power steering.

 

[gcihlar]

all i did was reroute my lines behind the center support easy and clean looking.

 

[XiKeiyaZI]

As a counter point to this and as other are saying.

Not that your wrong...

But, I've been running mine like this for many years and have had no issues... .

To quote ETS as you have to remove the lines to run there kit Taken from ETS RACE FMIC

I might just be jaded on the whole thing myself. I had an acquaintance who did this when installing a front mount on his GST. Not only did the temperature of the fluid soar, he ended up going through 2 power steering pumps in less than a 6 month period. I simply found it ironic that after he removed that cooler line against my input, he had power steering issues on a mechanical level. He shortly went over to an external power steering cooler and never had another issue.

 

[assassin3117]

I might just be jaded on the whole thing myself. I had an acquaintance who did this when installing a front mount on his GST. Not only did the temperature of the fluid soar, he ended up going through 2 power steering pumps in less than a 6 month period. I simply found it ironic that after he removed that cooler line against my input, he had power steering issues on a mechanical level. He shortly went over to an external power steering cooler and never had another issue.

What are the ambient temp's there? Just curious. Where I was stationed before summer was warm but not HOT and here in NC the summers are warm as well. Now If I was back down in Houston Texas I wouldn't remove the cooler.

 

[XiKeiyaZI]

In the summer? About 105+ and humid as hell.

 

[dexterholland04]

I did it on a 1g 5 years ago and it still has never had any problems. I did it on my 2g 2 years ago...again no problems. I cut the hard line at the end to make a big U-shaped piece and connected it back to the rubber hose. Mine are still there, just much shorter.

 

[bradselph]

thats the thing i dont need the whole set just the 3 gaskets i listed tb elbow, bov, and j-pipe

Unless you order them from jnztuning your not gonna buy them separate in a parts store.

 

[silicosys4]

You can move the power steering cooler up six inches to above the intercooler. I did that by cutting a slot in the core support, unbolting the lines from a bracket under the hood, moving the lines up a few inches, fabbing up a new bracket under the hood, and now it is in the same position, only 6 inches higher. I have also seen the PS lines sandwiched between the front mount and the radiator. I have a PR 1g kit(garbage), 3.5" thick.

 

[gcihlar]

im going to just try reusing them and rtv seal them they dont look to bad.