Prothane Motor Mounts Question

[BoostInsideTSi]

I just got some prothane motor mounts in the mail today. I have all four sides, and have heard how much of a PITA it is to do the rear. Will just doing the sides and the front be sufficient to prevent wheel hop for me? The main reason I am doing this is traction.. and if i can get out of doing the back with the same results ill just do that. I figured who better to ask than you guys with the experience.

 

[TrystanGST]

Speaking as someone who was in your position, I can say that the rear mount is definitely a PITA. Due to time constraints, I have not been able to install that one in (I have the front and sides done), and I have noticed a huge improvement with regards to wheel hop. It is pretty much non-existant.

 

[JessesTalon]

Make sure your wheels are balanced correctly and run a little less psi that should prevent wheel hop some and then the mounts will make it more effective and help out alot. I would say put all of them in, take the time to do it right, otherwise your going to have to do it later anyways. ask a Fellow DSMer to help you out maybe?

 

[Game Over]

I just got some prothane motor mounts in the mail today. I have all four sides, and have heard how much of a PITA it is to do the rear. Will just doing the sides and the front be sufficient to prevent wheel hop for me? The main reason I am doing this is traction.. and if i can get out of doing the back with the same results ill just do that. I figured who better to ask than you guys with the experience.

If you dont mind me asking, where did you get them? I'm about due.

 

[15psi88]

Not sure if it was really the right way to do it, but if you take a torch and burn out the old rubber in all the mounts, and take a chisel and cut whats left of the rubber insert, its like a steel ring, and then clean up the inside with a dremel and give it a coat of paint, and press in the new mounts. for all 4 it probally took me about 2 hours total.

 

[TrystanGST]

That's about the only way to do it. Those old mounts don't want to come out. At all. Just have fun cleaning up all the rubber droplets !

 

[98eclipseRS]

I first bought just the rear and front. Let me just say this with the tranny in the car the rear mount is next to impossible to do, or you just have to be patient as all hell. When I put the front mount in only I noticed an almost absolute elimination of wheel hop only in rare cases would I get wheel hop anymore. Even on fully inflated tires with stiff sidewalls.

Here is how to get to the rear mount if you want to do them all at once.

-jack up the car pretty damn high
-remove uicp, battery, battery tray, tb elbow, and remove the shift linkage from the tranny.
-you will first have to remove that bolt that holds the two parts of the mount together.
-then you will have to remove the tranny side of the mount(two bolts on top one on bottom(you will have to get to this one from under the car)
-then remove the frame side of the mount(3 bolts total 1 on left 2 on right)
-Installation is the reverse of removal

Be prepared to cuss alot and have patients(sp?) built up from weeks of not using it cause you will want to push the car off a cliff after all of it. Its not particularly hard just time consuming and frustrating cause the wrenches can only move like half a turn at most in some instances so it takes forever.

 

[esi-slowboy]

for all 4 it probally took me about 2 hours total.

Dude Your a master mech. Took me about 4 hours to do three PiTa man except i used urethane Windo weld to fill em up. Accelarates tighter no wheel hop one of the best mods as of yet

 

[Gatosport]

will the car shake like crazy when u change the mounts to prothane?

 

[99gst_racer]

will the car shake like crazy when u change the mounts to prothane?

That's actually more of a matter of opinion. Yes, you will feel an increase in engine vibration, but I personally wouldn't nessacerily say it "shook like crazy". IMO, The increase of vibration was well worth the decrease of wheel hop.

I too bought all 4 mounts/inserts, but I have yet to install the rear one. I'll probably wait until the next time I do my clutch. I did notice a huge improvement with just the 3 though.

For people that dont have access to a torch: a propane torch will not work as it does not get hot enough. It just creates alot of smoke and burning rubber smell. You need something of higher heat.

But there is an aternative method. I used a large (i forget the size) drill bit and I drilled through the rubber about 15-20 times to weaken it enough to where I could just pull/twist it out. I could probably do an entire side mount in 15-20 min start to finish.

It only takes one cut through the metal ring. You dont need 10 cuts! As long as your one cut gets completely through, you should be able to easily pry the ring out with a screw driver.

Rock On

 

[dsm laser]

Just to give a warning to the people who haven't done this yet.....

On my 1g, I started with the side mounts first and now I'm on my front. When I did my side mounts I hack sawed two slots into the metal ring of the old rubber insert and then air-chisseled them out. I assumed the same thing in the front but I was WRONG! Do not remove the OEM insert from the the front mount! All you have to do is match up the Urethane inserts to the open spaces in the factory insert, its as simple as that. This mistake cost me $80 to get a new mount. So just be fore-warned. Other than that there was the usual amount of difficulty in the install, be expected to take at least an hour on each mount if you want to do it properly.

 

[Coup D E'Tat]

I did all four when the tranny was out, and it was "fairly" easy.

Just do all four. Why buy something and not use them all?

 

[Turbo Talon DL]

My experience with these mounts was as the removal is the hardest part, i had access to a hydraulic press tho so it made it a little easier. Once you get the old mounts out, installation is a sinch, u can do that with a C-clamp...

 

[eagetal96]

sorry to get off the topic here, but boostinTSI where did you get those tail lights they look sweet as hell!

 

[BoostInsideTSi]

got the motor mounts in. this part is kind of funny.. i've read all these posts about tearing the rubber out and inserting the new mounts.. well I did that, for the front one at least, and then realized I shouldn't have.. got one for 50 bucks at autozone. Should have read a few posts back in time that would have saved me.

Anyway, these motor mounts are great. I have not really noticed an increase in vibration to the car. no wheelhop at all with these, and they look good too. good mod

My tail lights:
thanks for the comment. go to my webpage and scroll halfway down you will see an article I wrote on how to do them. Here's a link:
http://members.cardomain.com/boostinsidetsi

 

[dsm laser]

That sucks about the front mount, I was hoping I could save some headaches for a few people. Well hopefully some other DSMer's won't do what we did