Poll: Which Turbo Exhaust Manifold

[silkcity100]

1.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DSM-...ewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQitemZ8050056389QQrdZ1

2.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DSM-...ewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQitemZ8049142436QQrdZ1

 

[1993eclipseGS]

Port your stock 2g manifold, You'll be better off. If for some reason you must get one of those, Weld a support bracket from one flange, To the other.... On each side.. A total of 2 support brackets.

 

[silkcity100]

NUMBER 2 HAS 4 brackets from the runners to the flange,but 2 more from one flange to another is a good idea

 

[ISUJakey]

They're both pieces of shit. Nick from SLS has a good post around here somewhere discussing how he has more invested in materials on his manifolds that what these cheap POS's cost.

 

[1993eclipseGS]

It doesn't matter how many brackets are on the ''head'' flange. The pacesetter has a bracket from the ''head'' flange to the ''turbine housing'' flange, And that left one of my turbos laying on the crossbrace, Literally.. It fell down almost do the ground. My buddy welded what I was telling you to do, And has not had one problem with his.

 

[mitsuclipsegsx]

I bet the stock 2g manifold flows better then the 2 he listed, just port it..

 

[larsrya8]

If this is a street driven car then I would just port the 2G manifold and call it a day. The cheap tubular manifolds aren't strong enough to deal with the bumping and vibrations of a daily driven street car. Some are also designed with different metals in the flange, which causes cracking after going through only a couple heat cycles.

Anyway, the right turbo on a 2G manifold has gotten many into the 10's, and it's free because you already have it. If you must go bigger, get an Evo3 or the SBR cast manifold. If you're getting a full-Garrett turbo, get the Turbonetic's cast manifold.

 

[silkcity100]

what makes you think a 2g manifold flows more then these ebay manifolds? it has the same design as one of the dnp manifolds,it has bigger runners then the 2g,and its almost a equal length,which the 2g is not even close,the ebay manifolds have runners that have air moving from top to bottom flow as where the 2g flows straight then turns almost to a 90 degree turn

 

[BoostinAWD]

You will regret purchasing either of those manifolds. On a side note if you are hellbent on getting a tubular exhaust mani. I would look into DNP, or if you have some extra cash floating around a nice peice from shearer or full race.

 

[1993eclipseGS]

what makes you think a 2g manifold flows more then these ebay manifolds? it has the same design as one of the dnp manifolds,it has bigger runners then the 2g,and its almost a equal length,which the 2g is not even close,the ebay manifolds have runners that have air moving from top to bottom flow as where the 2g flows straight then turns almost to a 90 degree turn

Do you have any personal experience with ANY of these types of manifolds? I know I did, And alot others have also. Did you EVER see any of these ebay type manifolds in person, Holding it in your hands? I'm sure you woulden't be ranting and raving about how much ''bigger'' the inside of the manifold is on these tubular style manifolds from places like this.

Either way, Get one if you want... But when you want a 2g ported manifold again, Port your stock one and get it back on the car. The stock 2g manifold is way more then sufficent for you.

 

[silkcity100]

never held one in person but i seen on here that someone has had one for a year now and no problems,but i cant find that thread now and i dont remember which one it was that he actually bought,buying the magnus or the jm fabs intake manifold and only have about $200 left for the exhaust manifold,trying to find a tubular one,its not a daily driver

 

[GVR4592]

Buy it. Let us know how it works. Do some before and after dyno's and some datalogs. See if it improves your spool, or your top end.

 

[silkcity100]

just have to figure out which one to get first,but will show results

 

[silkcity100]

im going to have my 2g ported and do the dyno tune probably in 2 weeks,still building the car, then i should be able to find a tubular if i dont like the results and dyno it to see if any differences

 

[ISUJakey]

just have to figure out which one to get first,but will show results

Since you have faith in eBay shit, buy both.

 

[ISUJakey]

im going to have my 2g ported and do the dyno tune probably in 2 weeks,still building the car, then i should be able to find a tubular if i dont like the results and dyno it to see if any differences

And what turbo would this be that your 2G manifold is going to be a significant restriction?

 

[Slow95gsx]

Theres a reason why shearer, fullrace and victory performance manifolds are 6x the cost of the ones you posted. All of them will out perform and outlast any ebay manifold. I'd say if cash is kind of tight get a dnp. There great manifolds but arent quite as much as the ones I listed above. I use a victory performance manifold and I have no regrets on spending the extra money for it.

 

[Scrymerr]

Theres a reason why shearer, fullrace and victory performance manifolds are 6x the cost of the ones you posted. All of them will out perform and outlast any ebay manifold. I'd say if cash is kind of tight get a dnp. There great manifolds but arent quite as much as the ones I listed above. I use a victory performance manifold and I have no regrets on spending the extra money for it.

In addition to the quality and performance, some of the big guys offer lifetime warranties. Can't beat that.

 

[Slow95gsx]

In addition to the quality and performance, some of the big guys offer lifetime warranties. Can't beat that.

Exactly. I forgot to mention that.

 

[Slippi84]

You guys are all sheep and talk out your ass. I am getting so sick of people talkin shit on ebay stuff that have never had experience or at best know someone whose cousings brothers best friend had one a year ago that broke. STFU!!!! You can all check out my profile pics as I have both the exhaust manifold and o2 housing dump and both are better than the 2g ported or unported manifold as I have sat them right next to each other and compared them and seen them in action. Untill you have done the same you should

 

[Slippi84]

By the way they are the same manifold from xspower just one is the new design with the brackets to help support the turbo. I have the same one check my pics and you'll see what it looks like installed.

 

[1993eclipseGS]

A: Did you drive the car with this tubular manifold on yet? If so, For how long?

B: Did you take the car to a dyno, To PROVE that your testaments are true about this tubular manifold being ''better'' then a ported 2g manifold?

C: What exactly does sitting a manifold next to another one hafto do with anything? That would honestly be like sitting a 500whp ford festiva with 1 door, Next to a 200whp BRAND NEW car right off the show room floor. It DOES NOT matter how good the product looks, It is how it performs.

D: I have actually tried a ''less-expensive" manifold.. It failed. I then got a free one under warentee, It FAILED AGAIN.. Got ANOTHER one, And sold it.. Got email from the buyer months down the road saying it failed with very few street driven miles on it.

E: Where did you see these ''tubular manifolds'' in action? What kind of setup was this on? Do you or the person who put these parts to ''action'' have track times or dyno numbers of before and after?

Thanks.

 

[Slippi84]

A: Did you drive the car with this tubular manifold on yet? If so, For how long?

B: Did you take the car to a dyno, To PROVE that your testaments are true about this tubular manifold being ''better'' then a ported 2g manifold?

C: What exactly does sitting a manifold next to another one hafto do with anything? That would honestly be like sitting a 500whp ford festiva with 1 door, Next to a 200whp BRAND NEW car right off the show room floor. It DOES NOT matter how good the product looks, It is how it performs.

D: I have actually tried a ''less-expensive" manifold.. It failed. I then got a free one under warentee, It FAILED AGAIN.. Got ANOTHER one, And sold it.. Got email from the buyer months down the road saying it failed with very few street driven miles on it.

E: Where did you see these ''tubular manifolds'' in action? What kind of setup was this on? Do you or the person who put these parts to ''action'' have track times or dyno numbers of before and after?

Thanks.

1) Yes I have run this manifold and this was back when it was not as good as the new style manifolds(better welds and brakcets not to mention the thickness of the overall header seems increased)

2) Did you run a SIMILAR manifold or this exact same manofold. Cause everyone has run the old style or another manifold that looked like or could have been the same one but unless it was the exact same one that's not first hand experience.

3) Do YOU have any experience dyno or track times that prove the 2g manifold is better.


I used the old style with my 50 trim setup with no problems for about 3 months of hard racing. I sold the whole setup and started building up my present setup. Funny thing is I liked the manifold and the price was so good I bought another one with the o2 housing in a package for 200 less than a dnp header alone. I will have dyno tape and time slips in the next month and will start a thread that will shut up all the nay sayers for a little while untill they come up with more bs to complain about.

 

[Slippi84]

Do you have any personal experience with ANY of these types of manifolds? I know I did, And alot others have also. Did you EVER see any of these ebay type manifolds in person, Holding it in your hands? I'm sure you woulden't be ranting and raving about how much ''bigger'' the inside of the manifold is on these tubular style manifolds from places like this.

Either way, Get one if you want... But when you want a 2g ported manifold again, Port your stock one and get it back on the car. The stock 2g manifold is way more then sufficent for you.

Actualy the runners are bigger if you don't think so I would love to take a picture and show you

 

[larsrya8]

1) Yes I have run this manifold and this was back when it was not as good as the new style manifolds(better welds and brakcets not to mention the thickness of the overall header seems increased)

2) Did you run a SIMILAR manifold or this exact same manofold. Cause everyone has run the old style or another manifold that looked like or could have been the same one but unless it was the exact same one that's not first hand experience.

3) Do YOU have any experience dyno or track times that prove the 2g manifold is better.


I used the old style with my 50 trim setup with no problems for about 3 months of hard racing. I sold the whole setup and started building up my present setup. Funny thing is I liked the manifold and the price was so good I bought another one with the o2 housing in a package for 200 less than a dnp header alone. I will have dyno tape and time slips in the next month and will start a thread that will shut up all the nay sayers for a little while untill they come up with more bs to complain about.

So... do you or do you not have numbers proving that the manifold is better than a 2G ported? This post doesn't answer any questions as to whether the ebay manifold actually resulted in any gains. You two can go all night asking each other if they have proof either way. Someone show real numbers.