Please help with Cyclone

[hellotbone]

To hook mine up I used a spark plug boot. The end that goes to the coil pack. Just ziptie one end to the sensor and the smaller end insert hose and ziptie again. Been 2 years now no problems.

 

[L'ville]

To hook mine up I used a spark plug boot. The end that goes to the coil pack. Just ziptie one end to the sensor and the smaller end insert hose and ziptie again. Been 2 years now no problems.

That sounds like a good idea that might work.....

 

[L'ville]

What is the diffrence between making that sensor work and not having that sensor and insead just running a vac line?

 

[hellotbone]

Thats your MAP sensor it is required to run properly, although not completly familiar with its function its a requirement. The MPDI sensor you can omit if you wish to put up with the CEL from the ECU.

I just leave the MPDI installed but not hooked to vac and have it zip tied down under my magnus manifold. Just hook up the MAP sensor like I suggested and you will be good to go.

 

[T is for TURBO]

The MDP sensor is used to check ERG operation. If you plan on keeping the EGR, then keep it, if not, get rid of it. From what I hear, if you have DSMlink you can just disable it so it doesn't throw a CEL. Although, I'm not sure how to do that as I don't have DSMlink.......................yet

 

[CanadianTSi]

The MAP sensor is not needed, the car only uses it when it goes into fail safe or "limp mode" IE. when you leave the MAS unplugged.

You can leave it unplugged or I just cut the wires back at the harness.

 

[L'ville]

The MAP sensor is not needed, the car only uses it when it goes into fail safe or "limp mode" IE. when you leave the MAS unplugged.

You can leave it unplugged or I just cut the wires back at the harness.

Did you run a vac. hose?

 

[keymaster]

If you have DSMLink just eliminate the EGR system along with the MDP sensor. Then disable the CEL's through Link.

 

[CanadianTSi]

Did you run a vac. hose?

Nope, just cut The wires. My CEL is on for about 4 different reasons so 1 more won't hurt

 

[TURBOCASS]

is this a good upgrade or should i spend the extra money and get an aluminum intake? isthe performance that much better than a 1G?? the reason im asking is my friend is selling one for $75 dollars is it worth it?

 

[GSX93DSM]

Your not getting much more if any at all. I wouldn't change mine out for one to be honest with you. I would just get a Mangus if your willing to pay?

 

[keymaster]

The cyclone gives MUCH better low-end over the 1G and especially any SMIM.

 

[TURBOCASS]

thanks for the advice guys!

 

[blackGSX2g]

It depends on your set-up, but I have one on my car that I like a lot. The low end difference over a stock 1g isn't huge, but it is noticeable and makes the car a bit more streetable with a larger turbo. I also gained about 2-3mpg around town as well as quieting it down a bit when the flappers are shut.

As far as top end flow, I logged a few lb/min INCREASE in top end airflow at the same boost with the same tune, though I did make a few changes to my FMIC piping that can make up for a bit of that.

In the end it takes a bit of tuning to get it to work right with your set-up, but it might be worth it for you. Just make sure you buy the vacuum canister and have a way of controlling your FPR.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224551






For reference, I have my valves opening at 3500rpms at 40% throttle or more.

 

[TURBOCASS]

So do you recommend a certain kind of fuel controller? I just bought a fpr and guage setup... thanks for the great advice! Also about the turbo size i will only be running a "big" 16g so what do you think?

 

[blackGSX2g]

So do you recommend a certain kind of fuel controller? I just bought a fpr and guage setup... thanks for the great advice! Also about the turbo size i will only be running a "big" 16g so what do you think?

To use your FPR solenoid to activate the manifold, you need an EPROM chip burned for it (DSMLink, Jeff-O, etc).

 

[Kezden]

ok so i'm trying to take apart the cyclone intake manifold so i can replace the gaskets...
i've gotten all the bolts and nuts off the threads...except for the middle one.
Its the bolt that connects the butterfly part to the middle "C" part. Most of my sockets are
too big to fit in there. I've tried wrenches and vise grips, luckly i haven't stripped the bolt
yet, but either way i'm stuck...anyone know of any tools that can get it out?

I'm at work right now, but i'll be able to post pictures later on today.


Thanks!!

 

[98gsspy]

I was wondering if this is a good upgrade since I will be using a turbo and wanted to know if anyone knew if this intake can be put on a 2.4L.

Thanks

 

[OR Talonted]

I just recently put the cyclone intake on my 92 TSI. I just wanted to know if anyone knew how much power i can get out of it and how good or bad is that intake. So far all I can say is that i have seen a difference in torque and a little in top end. Thanks for your information?

 

[andymoraitis]

Please try a titles only search next time:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/search.php?searchid=2090911

That should keep you busy and answer any questions you may have.

Cheers,

Andy

 

[kspharris]

Do you have it set up correctly, where the butterfly opens and closes properly? If not it is only using one set of runners(the short I think).

 

[OR Talonted]

Yes impretty sure i have the vacum line hooked up correctly. I can feel the difference whe not boosting and under boost

 

[kspharris]

Well there is a "controller" for the manifold that you need. You can hook up the line but it will not function properly. The "controller" opens and closes the butterfly at different RPM's to allow us of the longer ones down low and the shorter ones up top. Hope that helps. If I remember correctly the "controller" that you need is a little white box. I could be wrong though.

 

[keymaster]

You not only need the white cylinder, but you need either a custom Keydiver chip or DSMlink to actuate the butterflies. Without one of these, you're just running with all the runners wide-open and defeating the purpose of the mani.

 

[thekellbeast]

There's also another method of using something like a shift light or RPM switch to open the solenoid at 4100 rpms (or 4k, whichever it is), so the manifold is activated. I used to have it bookmarked.