Opinions or feedback on RNR, AGP, PTE 50 trims?

[nineD5_GS-T]

AGP all the way.

 

[NOSLO2PT0]

Originally posted by bigjangin
why does agp say the pte's are "built wrong?" I dont see why you would have a problem as long as you run the oil feed from the filter housing rather than the head. Anybody want to comment on the pte's?

Doesn't have as much to do with where you get the oil from. More on the lines of the parts used to build them. The normal CHRA's we are getting on these turbos use the smaller shaft, and therefore, a weaker thrust bearing. The more serious DSM'ers are running 30psi on these turbos, and the smaller shaft/bearing combo can't withstand the rpms we spin these turbos at. Therefore they fail. Don't hear about the Supra/Sy/Ty or Honda camp destroying these turbos. Why? The Supra/Sy/Ty guys run a full T4 CHRA, which has the larger turbine shaft and better thrust bearing. It can take the abuse. The Honda guys don't break em cuz 95% of them don't run more than 8psi on their stock motors. So they don't put any loads on the shaft. DSM'ers run big boost cuz we can, therefore it puts more load on the shaft/bearing assembly. This leads to the premature failure.

 

[eclipsegsx9797]

well i have two friends that would say pte turbo suck, my one friend has shaft play with 1k miles on it(yes it could be because of him but 1kmiles come on), and the other is burning oil and the seals are not sealing.

 

[NJGSX96]

Originally posted by RoasT BeeF
I have heard that PTE's are not that great of a turbo because the stock oil feed location at the head cannot supply enough oil under high boost levels and it kills the turbo in no time. That would mean they are built wrong. The problem with routing the oil feed from the oil filter housing is that you have this big long ass oil line that has to in one way or another pass by the exhaust manifold, O2 housing and DP and picks up a ton of heat along the way. Not good for the turbo either.

Huh? My SS oil feed line on my PTE turbo passes between the lower IC pipe and radiator and connects to the turbo. AT no time is it passing by the eshaust manifold, downpipe or O2 housing. After a hard run I can grab it and it is warm but then again it has hot oil flowing through it.

RNR I cannot comment on since I have never had or known someone to run their turbos. AGP turbos I have seen on many a friends car and all of them love them. Good quality products and awesome tech support make them top on my list for my next turbo for the 1G if I need one. All of my friends are happy with them and their turbos.

As for me, I now run a PTE GT32E. Got a kickass deal on it and needed a turbo pronto at the time. I can't comment on longevity since I have had it for only 100 miles but so far I love it. For me it was a great choice and I have no regrets. As I get it tuned a little better I'll report more but as is just bolting it on, it kicks the crap out of the TD06 20G it replaced, which took a dump after just 6K miles. Burning, pushing, and leaking oil everywhere. Mitsubishi turbos must suck then too now, right?

 

[DSMSpyder99]

DAMN STRAIGHT AGP ALL THE WAY Im planning on getting the RS43 or RS49 I cant decide

 

[Sk8er07999]

Originally posted by eclipsegsx9797
well i have two friends that would say pte turbo suck, my one friend has shaft play with 1k miles on it(yes it could be because of him but 1kmiles come on), and the other is burning oil and the seals are not sealing.

Yeah see these are the kinds of things that I hear about PTE all the time and thats why I won't buy one. AGP sounds like the best by far. Thanks for all the responses guys.

 

[RnR Racing]

Let me say a few things. AGP has their manifold which is mig welded. Our manifold is tig welded and in my opinion much better. Our manifold is all tig welded and comes with a lifetime warranty.

We had never had any issues with fitting anything after the first 3 kits were sold. Ever since then it has been great.


We offer standard and equal length manifolds. We also recommend you getting them coated by us. We don't paint the manifolds either. Let me know if there are any other questions.


Here are a few pics so you can get an idea of what the kits look like. It's an EVO 8 because I don't have the DSM pics on the new computer yet.

 

[RnR Racing]

standard manifold

 

[RnR Racing]

DSM equal length manifold

 

[jdmawd]

The irony of RnR racing critiquing the craftsmanship of agps products is Mind boggling.

 

[RnR Racing]

AGP doens't make their manifolds. SFP does and I am not dogging anyone. Everyone has right to their own opinion right.

 

[badgsx]

How much of an advantage does the equal length manifolds have over standard length?

 

[Z1500]

All our manifolds are fully TIG welded inside and out.

Like I was saying about fitment. You can run PS, and keep your stock fans with the AGP kit. No fitment problems at al, in fact, it fits nicer than stock. As for performance, our kit has done 503awhp on pump gas on a 2.0L. It's the epitome of efficiently. No old school technology parts in our kit.

Kevin
www.agpturbo.com

 

[Groomz]

Originally posted by Z1500
All our manifolds are fully TIG welded inside and out.

Like I was saying about fitment. You can run PS, and keep your stock fans with the AGP kit. No fitment problems at al, in fact, it fits nicer than stock. As for performance, our kit has done 503awhp on pump gas on a 2.0L. It's the epitome of efficiently. No old school technology parts in our kit.

Kevin
www.agpturbo.com

Yay.

 

[RnR Racing]

Our standard manifold also fits just like stock.



Dre, is pretty incredible. He is a great tuner and always make great power. You can't exactly say that is what people should expect from your kit. He was also running what 30psi on pump?



We made 493whp at 22-24psi on our L3 kit, but it wasn't on pump.

 

[RnR Racing]

No old school technology here, since PTE says their 5 bolt housing flows more than the 4 bolt Garrett housing.



Also the equal length manifold will make a lot more top end power along with a better power band.

 

[dsmturboawd]

Originally posted by jdmawd
The irony of RnR racing critiquing the craftsmanship of agps products is Mind boggling.

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[eclipsegsx9797]

ok now you two vendor settle down now . i bought the agp for one main reason, IT WAS PROVEN MORE THEN A DOZEN TIMES TO BE IN THE 11 ON PUMP.

 

[dsmturboawd]

Originally posted by eclipsegsx9797
ok now you two vendor settle down now . i bought the agp for one main reason, IT WAS PROVEN MORE THEN A DOZEN TIMES TO BE IN THE 11 ON PUMP.

along with many others including the stocker .

 

[eclipsegsx9797]

^ well when you looking for a 50 trim to buy and all you see are people hitting 11's pretty easy with some kit wouldnt you wanna test it out.

 

[NOSLO2PT0]

The 14b/16G hasn't gone 11's on pump gas. Not even close. As for the kits, I'm sure the kits can go 11's on pump gas, but I didn't need a kit. Just one simple bolt on turbo, called an FP Green

 

[eclipsegsx9797]

well the green is an easy 50 trim to get there also, that is a simple bolt on that could be added to the list but when you want external wg add up how much it is for th o2 housing or to get a manifold for it then the tial wg, it comes out to how much the agp kit is and you get a garret turbo that u could change any wheel at any time you want if you want more power and a manifold,wg, dumptube, o2 housing


i was going to get the green also but then i added everthing up.

 

[Sk8er07999]

SFP manifolds are great manifolds in my opinion but I have also heard that the egual length manifold does flow better. It is just another plus to hear that it is tig welded and has a lifetime warranty. RNR why do you recommend we get the manfold coated? How much does it cost?

 

[eclipsegsx9797]

well i could answer that for you, when you get it coated it will help with the under hood temps, and against the manifolds from rusting ect.

 

[RnR Racing]

We always recommend getting the manifold coated. It makes the sensors under your hood last longer. It keeps the under hood temps down as well. I believe our Thermal coat is around a $100 option.


The equal length manifold will make more power over our standard manifold easily.