obx tubular manifold

[Slippi84]

Isn't that 2nd manifold's flange upside down for a 420a? And what a spot to put the external wastegate flange, it's pointing directly towards the radiator and fans.

Even if you did "modify" that turbo mani to be able to bolt up to the head, those pipes are still sitting extremely close to the radiator hose (as in probably touching). I doubt it would last long with it like that.

It's not upside down it's called a top mount manifold. Check out most guys running 42r's that's the kinda of manifold they have. As for the radiator and the external position I would never run a open dump that is asking for crazy underhood temps you get a dump tube that points down pas the fans. It doesn't stick out as far as it looks in that picture though the size specs are on their site. The modifying I was talking about dealt with the ram style not this style too.

 

[XMasta19]

No you don't get it...the damn wastegate itself would probably be shoved through the radiator or sit inside a fan if equipped on that side. Also don't see how running that top mount would make plumbing for intercooler/intake possibly feasable, and I won't even begin to fathom a downpipe routing from that...

 

[Slippi84]

No you don't get it...the damn wastegate itself would probably be shoved through the radiator or sit inside a fan if equipped on that side. Also don't see how running that top mount would make plumbing for intercooler/intake possibly feasable, and I won't even begin to fathom a downpipe routing from that...

Yes I do get it.

SOmeone just buy the dam thing and if it doesn't fit just return it or whichever company made those pics get some pics of the other modle so we can end this speculation. I"ll be the first to flame it if it doesn't fit.

 

[Slippi84]

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Here's another pic I found I don't see how that could stuick out any further than the ram style


I found an auction on ebay for one i'm gonna pick it up probably next week but the kit won't go on for atleast two weeks as I want to find a 16g with t3 hotside cause i'm not a big fan of ebay turbo's to many parts to break and to much can go wrong. WIth a manifold it will just crack and you own't boost. That and 16g's have made 400hp on race gas(yes I know not gonna happen on a 420a but proven performance is the point there)

 

[totaleclipse_05]

All I'm gonna say is good luck and have fun throwing some money away. I don't know what else to say or do to make you understand why people aren't using OBX manifolds for a reason.

 

[Slippi84]

All I'm gonna say is good luck and have fun throwing some money away. I don't know what else to say or do to make you understand why people aren't using OBX manifolds for a reason.

Even if I didn't have access to a pipe bender a welder and any other machine and way of custom making stuff work that I do threw work I would still do it just so everyone knows what the exact good or bad points are about the product and if it really is a POS or a steal. Everyone said this ebay company XTD made shitty clutches not worth buying I was one of the first to buy the stage 3 and stage 4 now there's a number of guys running them just as happy as the ACT guys but with more money in their pocket.

I'm Thinking that it won't take as much as you think to make the one i'm looking at work. I'm looking at using a adapter so I can use a true mitsu 16g hotside and all with internal gate to cut down on space and install time. that way I can just block off that external dump and Which way I face the turbo won't matter so I can actualy face it the same way as a 4g63 and that would give me plenty of room for the dp.

 

[VelocitàPaola]

The hood won't even close with that manifold... Have you looked at a 420A engine bay before? That was made for a 420A Neon; they assume anything that fits the 420A Neon will fit a 420A DSM -- same engine, right?

 

[Slippi84]

The hood won't even close with that manifold... Have you looked at a 420A engine bay before? That was made for a 420A Neon; they assume anything that fits the 420A Neon will fit a 420A DSM -- same engine, right?

I was thinking about that too.I'm gonna have to measure clearance between the hood and where the stock manifold is just as a gauge to see how close it woudl be. I have seen big snails on 420a with the log style stick up quite a bit and they seem to still be ok.

 

[VelocitàPaola]

Not like this, though. In fact, I've never seen a log style manifold point the turbo upward... they've all oriented the turbo downward somewhat. There is virtually no room above the manifold for a turbo... trust me, my wastegate barely even fits there.

The OBX is a top-mount style manifold... it probably works in a Neon, but it will not work in an Eclipse.

 

[Slippi84]

Not like this, though. In fact, I've never seen a log style manifold point the turbo upward... they've all oriented the turbo downward somewhat. There is virtually no room above the manifold for a turbo... trust me, my wastegate barely even fits there.

The OBX is a top-mount style manifold... it probably works in a Neon, but it will not work in an Eclipse.

I looked at your pic again that's about how high i figured it would come about where your wastegate is.

 

[Slippi84]

WOW I just gave OBX a call and he's like we don't make a exhaust manifold for 420a eclipses. I think this is a case of someone on ebay figuring hey 420a 420a like paul said. I just didn't see how if it was made ofr the car that there was NO way to make it work but if it'sn ot made for the car then there you go.

 

[4UH8ERS]

By the way not that I would go that route but why not just cut the ends of the housing off to make a "C" shap and bolt it down it would still hold just as good.

Trying to picture what your thinking, because the the part thats touching is the part that the bolt head presses against when threaded into the water outlet. Not to mention the bolt head itself sticks out just as far as the housing does. That would not hold "just as good" it might and key word might hold yes, but not just as good. Misinformation to say the least.

Dents are like cheater cuts, they kind of defeat the purpose.

just be patient like the rest of us ok: : http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=99885&mode=full

 

[VelocitàPaola]

The turbo's on the way... I should have the mock-up done soon.

 

[Slippi84]

Trying to picture what your thinking, because the the part thats touching is the part that the bolt head presses against when threaded into the water outlet. Not to mention the bolt head itself sticks out just as far as the housing does. That would not hold "just as good" it might and key word might hold yes, but not just as good. Misinformation to say the least.

Dents are like cheater cuts, they kind of defeat the purpose.

just be patient like the rest of us ok: : http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=99885&mode=full

You guys must love this word. I was throwing out ideas. You obviously didn't understand so you assumed missinformation. I was thinking of bolting it from the back and cutting the end off to make a "C" or U however you want to think of it, and TRUST me it would work seeing how it's the exact design that is used to adjust the main serp belt on a 4g63t



Edit: Not to mention I made it clear I wouldn't do either myself and again they were just ideas.

 

[Slippi84]

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[4UH8ERS]

The turbo's on the way... I should have the mock-up done soon.

awww, the poor furrbo!!! has noone to love anymore

 

[VelocitàPaola]

I'll give you the furbo if you want it.

 

[4UH8ERS]

You guys must love this word. I was throwing out ideas. You obviously didn't understand so you assumed missinformation. I was thinking of bolting it from the back and cutting the end off to make a "C" or U however you want to think of it, and TRUST me it would work.

Your absolutely right I don't understand what your talking about thats why I directed the statement to you. I'm not saying your wrong, but even after your 2nd explanation I'm still lost. Even if you planned on threading a bolt through the back? which would require tapping the super brittle OEM T-stat housing. How do you tap threads into a "C" or "U"?

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I'm just curious how you would thread a bolt in that? not to mention you cant cut a C or a U in the bolt after its torqued , that would be stupid. I guess the real question would then be: "how much of the t-stat would need to be removed according to which run of manifolds you got, because clearances would not be the same for every piece. Either way its rediculous and I know you stated you wouldn't do it anyway. I was just confused and wanted an explination.

 

[4UH8ERS]

I'll give you the furbo if you want it.

hmmm .. Maybe it could be shipped with my manifold I order from you.........

 

[Slippi84]

Your absolutely right I don't understand what your talking about thats why I directed the statement to you. I'm not saying your wrong, but even after your 2nd explanation I'm still lost. Even if you planned on threading a bolt through the back? which would require tapping the super brittle OEM T-stat housing. How do you tap threads into a "C" or "U"?

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I'm just curious how you would thread a bolt in that? not to mention you cant cut a C or a U in the bolt after its torqued , that would be stupid. I guess the real question would then be: "how much of the t-stat would need to be removed according to which run of manifolds you got, because clearances would not be the same for every piece. Either way its rediculous and I know you stated you wouldn't do it anyway. I was just confused and wanted an explination.

Atleast we're on the same page with what I meant but cuting a section out and going from the back but You would not have to thread the newly formed C or U. You use a bolt to go threw and a small locking nut that isn't much thicker then the bolt your using to push up agaist the C or U. This is exactly why I said I wouldn't do it because you would need to do rediculous ghetto rigging to get it to work. I don't liek the log style but not enough to go threw all that.

 

[totaleclipse_05]

My turbo's oil line on a Autosquare (STAR, Treadstone) barely clears the hood so I highly doubt you would get that mani to work out with the hood.

If you really want a tubular manifold, wait until Paul's company comes out with the two models they are designing.

 

[XMasta19]

I don't get on for one day and this thread blows up hahha...yet still, our point of that manifold is garbage and won't work is still intact hehe. Nice to know that they indeed don't even back making a product for the 420a eclipse.

P.S. I better get that damn furbonium Paul!!!

 

[Slippi84]

I don't get on for one day and this thread blows up hahha...yet still, our point of that manifold is garbage and won't work is still intact hehe. Nice to know that they indeed don't even back making a product for the 420a eclipse.

P.S. I better get that damn furbonium Paul!!!

Yeah after that it was def out the window as even an option when obx didn't even claim it's for our cars.

 

[Blitzeclips]

Atleast he gave it a shot. Now we all know exactly why it won't fit.

 

[InfiniteGSX]

That top mount is what I want to see pics of installed!