Noticed a few things, please help!

[Oldbeaterturbo]

I took off the air can(spray painted it) and cleaned my filter and cut the snorkle off. Then i checked the inside of the intake hose , the one that connect the turbo and the air can and there was a bunch of oil in there. I looked closer and there was no oil by the compressor wheel of the turbo but there was a bunch stuck to the inside of the intake hose! Is this really bad, how can oil get in there anyways? I also noticed a small exhaust leak near the muffler and there is water dripping down from the crack. what does an exhaust leak do to the way the car runs anyways?? I gave the car a tune up today, changed the plugs to ngk iridium ones, pennzoil engine flush, castrol syntec 10w 30 oil change and a napa oil filter and ran into another small probelm. While the engine was running with the pennzoil engine flush already poured inside, i had to move it inside my garage cuz it was running outside (didnt want to inhale the fumes). Now all i have to do is drive straight about 20 feet into my garage and the car just died. Now it was running fine until i pressed on the clutch and shifted into 1'st, then it just slowly choked and died. I had to push it into the garage but it started up fine after the tune-up. What could have been the problem? I just got my talon and it has 180,000 km on it if that helps any! thanks

 

[Oldbeaterturbo]

xcz504d your comments have been very helpful thus far and i appreciate your advice! I will continue posting when something different occurs or if the problem gets worse! thanks again!

 

[xcz504d]

Not a problem, when you get the compression check taken care of let us know how it went, and we can see from there what else could be causing your problems.

 

[Oldbeaterturbo]

Wow i got the worst luck ever. I'm driving to get something to eat and my oil light comes on so i get a little suspicious cuz my oil pressure gauge is not working cuz the sensor is broken so i can't connect it so in reality i have no idea how much oil i actually have! So i quickly start heading home cuz i am worried and BAM my engine losses all power and it made the same sound as when ## axle pops out cuz i have had that happen in another car. Everytime i let of the break the engine would sound like its getting worse so i coasted it to the side and turned it off. Well i popped the hood and everything looked fine. Took my flashlight out cuz it was like 12 at night and there was a huge pile of oil on the ground and everywhere underneath the car and even in the wheel wells, WTF? i check the dipstick and there was less then half a quart left Now i towed the car home, poured some more oil in and tried to start it and nothing, it turns but doesnt start. How much damage can oil starvation do to a 180, 000 km engine? Whats worse is the car has been sittng outside since sunday cuz i have no room in the garage for it and it's f'in snowing outside! Damn Canada!

 

[Tweaker_911]

Wow i got the worst luck ever. I'm driving to get something to eat and my oil light comes on so i get a little suspicious cuz my oil pressure gauge is not working cuz the sensor is broken so i can't connect it so in reality i have no idea how much oil i actually have! So i quickly start heading home cuz i am worried and BAM my engine losses all power and it made the same sound as when ## axle pops out cuz i have had that happen in another car. Everytime i let of the break the engine would sound like its getting worse so i coasted it to the side and turned it off. Well i popped the hood and everything looked fine. Took my flashlight out cuz it was like 12 at night and there was a huge pile of oil on the ground and everywhere underneath the car and even in the wheel wells, WTF? i check the dipstick and there was less then half a quart left Now i towed the car home, poured some more oil in and tried to start it and nothing, it turns but doesnt start. How much damage can oil starvation do to a 180, 000 km engine? Whats worse is the car has been sittng outside since sunday cuz i have no room in the garage for it and it's f'in snowing outside! Damn Canada!

I hate to say it but unless you take some auto-repair classes that car is going to nickel and dime you to death (Heck, take the class regardless). I would recommend letting it sit there for the winter (unless you can't) and save your pennies for a complete motor swap. It sounds like your motor's shot, fuel injector's shot and the list goes on.... So when your motor seized where did the oil on the ground come from?? Is your block cracked ?? Seriously, save yourself a lot of headaches because it's only going to continue... SWAP THAT MOTOR (or bare minimum a rebuild, if that's even possible) !!!!! LIKE TOM THE TURKEY, IT"S DONE !!!!!!

HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL !!!!

 

[xcz504d]

Hate to say it, but your engine is probably toast. No oil can do ALOT of damage, first your engine starts to overheat, more so when your stopped than when your moving (your temp gauge might not even go up if your driving over 30 mph) parts inside aren't getting lubrication, metal is craping metal, your piston rings are being torn to pieces scraping against the cylinder walls, burnt oil is caking on to your crank, your lifters are being pushed and pulled 10 times harder without lubrication probably out of adjustment or broken in some cases, the stress on the lifters is scoring your cams, valves are sticking and tearing into the head... you get the picture...

BUT you can turn it over, believe it or not, thats good news... Most engines that run out of oil are completely seized... I siezed a motor in mazda mx-6 once, and it costs me $3000 to swap it (i swapped it for a JDM block for 50 more horses)... If you don't do the swap yourself, I would expect anywhere from $2000 - $3000 for the engine and installation, you can have a new clutch installed and flywheel at the point too with no additional labor charges (somthing to think about)...

Like tweaker said, where did the oil come from? That's the first thing you should find out, it's snowing so I don't know if youll find it today I would consider swapping the engine, for either a new engine, or a used one that you intend to rebuild... Depending on how much time and money you have available, now would be a GOOD time to think about your goals for the car and achieve them all at once...

You might be able to rebuild yours, a rebuild kit generally costs about $500 or so, you can rent the equipment needed to pull the block and drop it in your garage and work on it a few hours everyday, but I would expect to see some block damage and it might be trash... Check the classifieds, theres a guy offering rebuilds for $1000 with some goodies included, search for "rebuilt 6 bolt motors" and it should come up.. You would have to ship it to missouri, and that might costs an additional $600 round trip...

Good luck...

 

[Oldbeaterturbo]

Ya i figured the engine was garbage. I am trying to track down a used 4G63 at the moment and i will be swapping it myself with the help of my dad and his friend. I am trying to get the damn car inside so i can figre out where the oil came from but we just had a frigen snow storm last night and it's difficult. I thought about just letting it sit there all winter but then i would have no transportation for the whole winter and i can't handle that plus i want this car to run good. I enjoy the car even if it's not running perfect, i've grown kinda fond of the poor bastard! YA and there is no way i would pay $600 for shipping, i gotta find someone around here that has an engine. thanks everyone

 

[xcz504d]

One way shipping shouldnt cost more than $300... so the $600 was round trip if you sent it off... You can get a 4g63 for about $700... thats $1000 shipped...

 

[Oldbeaterturbo]

4g63's go for $700? Are u serious? I just re-read ## message and i didnt realize u wrote round trip so yeah $300 one way is not too shabby! I have to call a few places around here and find out if i can get a good deal on a high mileage 4g63. Now when u say $700, is that a high mileage engine or under 100,000km? thanks

 

[xcz504d]

It's impossible to tell how many miles are on an engine, unless you buy it from someone who pulled it out of the car themselves... 9 times out of 10 if you buy it online, from company X that says it has les than XXXXXX miles, they really don't know...

www.woodfins.com has decent prices, I've dealt with them before... But you will probably find a better deal in the classifieds section of this site. If you use the classified section, remember to follow the instructions on how not to get ripped off... And any 6bolt engine from 1990 to 1994 will fit in your car...

 

[Oldbeaterturbo]

thanks once again, i will check out the classifieds.