New Projectors?! Link Inside...

[glimt]

I have owned a pair of apc dual projectors (gen 3 ), the ones that use your stock wiring and bulbs, (9006/9005 )
all i can say is matched up to the stock 95-96 headlights it was like day and night difference. The projectors way out performed my stockers, and i had gotten the ones with the clear ion lense , not thge blue ion. Sop had i gotten the blue lense and some upgraded bulbs not the stock 55 watts ones they would have lighted even better. In my eperirnce the apc dual projectors are definetly worth every penny, and with upgraded bulbs , like tghe wannabe hid bulbs, for another 20-30 bucks it it would have been one of the best lighting setups for our cars.

Unless I missed it, APCs product line does not contain any Generation III headlamps for the eclipse. For those two people that have them it would be cool if you could share where you got them so the rest of us can see what they are.

Thanks.

 

[dave99gst]

So these new projectors that use the H3 blubs... does that mean I won't be able to use fog lights? I have a set of PIAA fog lights right now and that would suck if I couldn't use them with these projectors...

you can stil use fogs. H3's just dont work very well as headlights.

 

[STECARS]

Unless I missed it, APCs product line does not contain any Generation III headlamps for the eclipse. For those two people that have them it would be cool if you could share where you got them so the rest of us can see what they are.

Thanks.

Ok, i just realized they are generation II , ^^ wiseguy^^ , Its a common mistake.
oh, pm sent. I got mine from www.godfathercustoms.com about 2 years ago. $359.
If you pickup a tuner magazine you will see more advertisements and vendors. And many more than 2 people got them. Look in gallery for cars with dual projectors most if not all are apc.
Dual projectors= projected high beam and projected low beam.

here ya go http://www.performancestyleattitude.com/home.htm , Scroll down to headlights.
however i could almost swear there was a generation III a few years back , If I'm right , they were the same as Gen II but without the glass cover. They looked like the black honda ones on top of page.

 

[glimt]

Ok, i just realized they are generation II , ^^ wiseguy^^ , Its a common mistake.
oh, pm sent. I got mine from www.godfathercustoms.com about 2 years ago. $359.
If you pickup a tuner magazine you will see more advertisements and vendors. And many more than 2 people got them. Look in gallery for cars with dual projectors most if not all are apc.
Dual projectors= projected high beam and projected low beam.

here ya go http://www.performancestyleattitude.com/home.htm , Scroll down to headlights.
however i could almost swear there was a generation III a few years back , If I'm right , they were the same as Gen II but without the glass cover. They looked like the black honda ones on top of page.

I *really* did not mean to be a wiseguy. I spent hours googling for "generation III" APCs before I posted that comment. I rewrote that post like 5 times just so I wouldn't sound like a jerk.

APC is kind of funny, there are definately three models of their lights I have seen, but they are only listed as Generation Is, or Generation IIs even though their does appear to be a couple of different Generation IIs.

Thanks for the information. I will go after the generation IIs.

peace.

 

[Airpoppoff]

Ghetto!

 

[Spidey]

Your right spidey I don't actually have experience with these specifc lights (do you have pics of them on your car id like to see what it looks like on a car). But they use the same setup my original projectors use with H style lighting that I bought from nopi umptingsomthing years ago. An there where crape!!! An im sure most people will tell you you that any projector that uses H still light sucks! Now like I said before thats my opinion.
See spidey I live in the f@cking boon docs. Do you do alot of country driving, charlotte from what I here is alot like madison? Well im glad you have better luck with your lighting then I did.

I think if anyone wants to get projectors they should do reasearch before they buy something. Thats the point of these forums. Im stating my opinion about "H lighting" with projectors. I don't know how im posting "false info"?!?! How having a clear halo with l.e.d. in the halo would give me better lighting over not having a lit halo.

-Matt

Yes, I do quite a bit of back road driving with no street lights. With 1 bulb lit, the output is as much if not better than stock. I use $5 H3 bulbs from Advance Auto Parts, nothing special at all. My only guess is APC or whoever makes these, actually chose some quality projector lenses this time, or rather some lenses MADE for halogen bulbs. I didn't mean to jump on your case, but if you haven't used this specific light, which is not the same as the previous generations, then don't mislead people, because they're obviously different lenses. The H3 bulbs are not the reason the previous lights sucked, it was the projector lense itself.

 

[UW95GST]

wow...the amount of misinformation from you lighting wisemen is astounding.

all h bulbs are crap? last time I checked, H1 bulbs are far superior to many 900x bulbs.

bulbs hid wannabe bulbs with a blue projector are the best set up? second to none, the absolute WORST set up possible for light.

you should really do some research before you post misinformation.

 

[STECARS]

The blue bulbs are better than stock, Iam talking about the ones at your local ricer shop for about $20 that come in a little case. However the piaa's are superior to all. and would be the best choice. I speak from first hand experience.

 

[FiReBReTHa]

sylvania silverstars are the best performing nonHID bulbs. they cast a white light.

 

[STECARS]

wow...the amount of misinformation from you lighting wisemen is astounding.

all h bulbs are crap? last time I checked, H1 bulbs are far superior to many 900x bulbs.
bulbs hid wannabe bulbs with a blue projector are the best set up? second to none, the absolute WORST set up possible for light

.

you should really do some research before you post misinformation.

Projectors are about $300. Apc gen II
The blue blue bulbs are bettre than stock. If you wanna go second to none then get a real hid kit with the projectors, well over $600
next best thing is Piaa's/silverstars and projectors, about $400-500 ,
or you can get the projectors with the blue ricer bulbs , add $20 to cost of projectors.
Also I have never used H bulbs , Hope that clarifies the information I was trying to pass along.


bulbs hid wannabe bulbs with a blue projector are the best set up? second to none, the absolute WORST set up possible for light

The Blue ricer bulbs light the street way better than the stock bulbs that my 95 came with that are 55w., Thats as stated above frome experience , not misinformation.

 

[STECARS]

sylvania silverstars are the best performing nonHID bulbs. they cast a white light.

Never tried them , therefore cant doubt your input. But, between the silverstars and Piaa's they are in the same category to me. Except the piaas I.m speaking of, give off a very minimal blue tint , almost absulote white, I guess close to the silverstars,.. Everyone has preferences and you may be right . Like i said i never tried them. The Piaa's i think wre like $75 a set , or 75 each , cant remember.

 

[Omega]

Could someone post a link to these Gen 3 projectors? I would like know the difference.. and if they will be suiteable to modify.

 

[MattnGsx]

Where does one get these APC gen 3 lights?

To be honest, right now I don't know where you could find a set. I had to call APC! They gave me a list of distributors and who has recently ordered the lights, and I went from there. At the time I ordered I had to go through JCwhitney, everyone else I called was out of stock. I paid 300 dollars plus shipping for them :thumbdown . Though I don't think the price is very justified, but the quailty of product I think is excellent! I just wish they would have provided a wire harness for them (I had to use my stock ones from inside my headlights).

-Matt

 

[MattnGsx]

Yes, I do quite a bit of back road driving with no street lights. With 1 bulb lit, the output is as much if not better than stock. I use $5 H3 bulbs from Advance Auto Parts, nothing special at all. My only guess is APC or whoever makes these, actually chose some quality projector lenses this time, or rather some lenses MADE for halogen bulbs. I didn't mean to jump on your case, but if you haven't used this specific light, which is not the same as the previous generations, then don't mislead people, because they're obviously different lenses. The H3 bulbs are not the reason the previous lights sucked, it was the projector lense itself.

Thanks for the inlightment to the product. YES the lenses did suck in them!!!!!
no offense taken. I find this the point of the forums.

-Matt

 

[jmdombr]

Does anyone like the chrome housing? How do they look on a car?

 

[STECARS]

Does anyone like the chrome housing? How do they look on a car?

Those wre the ones i got , i put them om my white tsi, they looked to flashy/guatty.
but , would have probably looked better with chrome rims. If you got chrome rims and the chrome tails, they wouldnt look that bad.

 

[jmdombr]

Yea, what do you think would look best on a black car w/ chrome wheels?
I cant decide!

 

[STECARS]

Yea, what do you think would look best on a black car w/ chrome wheels?
I cant decide!

tough to say man. Try getting some over at photoshop to do it for you before you make your decision.

 

[jmdombr]

tough to say man. Try getting some over at photoshop to do it for you before you make your decision.

yea, are all the ones you see on ebay good?

there are so many to chose from!

I'm thinkin chrome? No?>

 

[cuttheduck]

yea, are all the ones you see on ebay good?

there are so many to chose from!

I'm thinkin chrome? No?>

Pick on what would help bring your car together, not on what looks good when
its not on your car. Heres what i mean.
I have a blue talon w/ eclipse front end i got. Since there is black around the
foglight bezels, the lil black "strip", my chin spoiler, and I have a black roof,, I
got black housing projectors. It looks very good and the reason is because I
knew the blackhousings would tie it all together and maintain 2 color schemes
of black and blue. NOT blue, alil black, and some riced out chrome lights etc.

Thats what seperates some of the nice clean show cars you see and ricey pieces of crap.
Pick a color or two and stick w/ it, Not a black exterior w/ red and yellow mcdonalds interior etc.

 

[2gtsifwd]

I like the halo look my friend just out some of those on his 98 VR6 Jetta and it looks great. I wonder which projectors I have, also jmdombr I would go with black on black.

 

[FiReBReTHa]

i have two other people looking to buy headlights within the next week, anyone else that wnats to as well PM Me so i can get a number to give to them for a group order type of deal, on Halo Projector headlights.

 

[glimt]

Projectors are about $300. Apc gen II
The blue blue bulbs are bettre than stock. If you wanna go second to none then get a real hid kit with the projectors, well over $600
next best thing is Piaa's/silverstars and projectors, about $400-500 ,
or you can get the projectors with the blue ricer bulbs , add $20 to cost of projectors.
Also I have never used H bulbs , Hope that clarifies the information I was trying to pass along.


bulbs hid wannabe bulbs with a blue projector are the best set up? second to none, the absolute WORST set up possible for light

The Blue ricer bulbs light the street way better than the stock bulbs that my 95 came with that are 55w., Thats as stated above frome experience , not misinformation.

There is no way that blue bulbs are better than white bulbs. It boils down to pure physics. Blue light has the shortest wavelenghts making it susceptible to scattering.... thus the sky is blue. Yellow lenses (yellow is the complement to blue) block blue light which removes haze and improves clarity. This is why fog lights have yellow lenses; it blocks the blue waves from being projected since blue light would get scattered by fog. This is why marksmen wear yellow lenses, and you put a yellow filter on your camera to get rid of haze. Plain and simple, blue light is not what you want to be projecting in front of you.

White light is all light. The reason it seems white (or cooler/ more blue) than stock is because white lights include blue light. This looks brighter and better, but in fog/rain is actually going to result in more glare. Slightly "warmer" or more yellow bulbs are actually better than "white" bulbs no matter what they look like, for most driving conditions. If it is a perfectly clear night, then the white light is beneficial since it does add more light, but if there is any rain/fog/snow/dust then the white light will be inferior to a warmer / more yellow bulb.

Blue light scatter regardless of whether that blue light is appearing as a blue light bulb, or a white light bulb.

--Craig

 

[glimt]

If I ever got Halo projectors, they would have to have the angel on the high beam and low beam

Anyone ever seen such a lamp?

My wishlist...
black/clear
all round lenses
9005/9006 bulbs
Nice metal housings
halos on both lenses
completely clear front glass (no horizontal etching)

--Craig

 

[STECARS]

The blue bulbs are better than stock, Iam talking about the ones at your local ricer shop for about $20 that come in a little case. . I speak from first hand experience.

AS stated i've had first hand experience not a physics/buttometer. The stock bulbs are 55w and my blue ones are 80w and light the road alot better than my stock. and they were like $20 bucks. So thats my experience definetly worth the money even though they are ricer bulbs.