1G New motor coming together

[SasaniFab]

Here we go boys, I tried to do everything by the book, all new parts.... oem if I could find them. Wiseco hd Pistons with Manley turbo tuff rods. Running oem mls head gasket with l19s. Gunna be switching my turbo setup. Currently I'm running a fp black with Tial Mvr. I'm looking at fp 3586 hta setup. The head is ferrrea valves, gsc cams, springs.... kiggly hta. Should be able to throw down.... more to come

 

[gsxeclipse102]

Nice. Its funny were doing the same thing. I jumped up to a gtx3582r.

 

[Kapok6]

Seems to be a few people bailing out on the black lately.

 

[GST with PSI]

Looks good. Who did the machine work?

 

[Justin Lauscher]

Any reason why your ditching out on the black? I picked mine up on black Friday. Makes me think im going to be disappointed when spring comes. Lol

 

[SasaniFab]

Looks good. Who did the machine work?

I brought the block to rrt motorsports (raif) using his guy for machine work. THe assembly was done by me and a local guy, we call him turbo tony, hes well known in my area for tuning dsms.

 

[SasaniFab]

Any reason why your ditching out on the black? I picked mine up on black Friday. Makes me think im going to be disappointed when spring comes. Lol

No particular reason, the black is a great turbo, im just looking for more. That turbo will make u 500whp.... I actually love the black, pulls very hard.

 

[SasaniFab]

My stupid ass forgot to order the rear oil gasket.... out of all the things I have, now I need to lower the motor off the stand to install the stupid housing and rear main seal.

 

[SasaniFab]

Progress

 

[Kapok6]

No particular reason, the black is a great turbo, im just looking for more. That turbo will make u 500whp.... I actually love the black, pulls very hard.

I would think that a turbo that is rated at 71lbs/min should get you considerably more than 500whp...

 

[Vegas Smith]

I see a lot of blacks for sale in comparison to other turbos.

 

[gsxeclipse102]

The evos seem to do well with the fp blacks on e85. They also have a bigger exhaust housing. It seems the dsm crowd can't hit the airflow numbers that the fp black is supposedly rated at.

 

[Talon96fwd]

Was planning on buying a Fp black turbo but was told that they were back up for months. I don't have time or the patience to be waiting for months for a turbo. Went with the precision 6266.

 

[SasaniFab]

I would think that a turbo that is rated at 71lbs/min should get you considerably more than 500whp...

I think the exhaust housing will always be the limiting factor on the stock frame fp turbos. Im debating on if I should put the turbo money into a built transmission and run the black...

 

[Vegas Smith]

The latter if you want to actually drive your car instead of it sitting on jack stands all year because its broken

 

[SasaniFab]

Was planning on buying a Fp black turbo but was told that they were back up for months. I don't have time or the patience to be waiting for months for a turbo. Went with the precision 6266.

Really? Backed up?.... that sucks, well that is a sick turbo so

 

[Justin Lauscher]

Was planning on buying a Fp black turbo but was told that they were back up for months. I don't have time or the patience to be waiting for months for a turbo. Went with the precision 6266.

I bought mine during black Friday, took them a week and a half to build it and it was shipped after that.

 

[Talon96fwd]

According to STM they have a guy that has been waiting for months at this time. But maybe things have change. But after hearing that I just upgraded to the 6266 so my 600whp shouldn't be any problem to reach. But good luck on your build.

 

[donniekak]

I think the exhaust housing will always be the limiting factor on the stock frame fp turbos. Im debating on if I should put the turbo money into a built transmission and run the black...

That depends which bolt on turbo you get. The fp30 housing that comes on the dsm76, dsm82, and dsm86 has gone over 150 in the 1/4.

 

[SasaniFab]

That depends which bolt on turbo you get. The fp30 housing that comes on the dsm76, dsm82, and dsm86 has gone over 150 in the 1/4.

I was referring to the 8cm housing. I was actually going to ask you guys if anyone new the service limit for standard bearing? When I measured the crank I got 1.77 on all the pins except for number 4 I go 1.72 maybe 1.73. Im hoping this is not to loose, I guess we will find out.....

 

[Kapok6]

I've been 130.75 @ 29psi on my DSM76. car weighs 3395lbs.

 

[Kapok6]

I think the exhaust housing will always be the limiting factor on the stock frame fp turbos. Im debating on if I should put the turbo money into a built transmission and run the black...

Yeah, that's where I was going with that. no one will ever see 71lbs/min on that turbo so I don't know why it's "rated" as such.

 

[gsxeclipse102]

Yeah, that's where I was going with that. no one will ever see 71lbs/min on that turbo so I don't know why it's "rated" as such.

That rating is the compressor wheel i believe. The exhaust side just chokes it too much to ever hit that number

 

[Kapok6]

That rating is the compressor wheel i believe. The exhaust side just chokes it too much to ever hit that number

Right, I would think if you're going to "rate" a turbo, it should be at a realistic # of what the thing as a whole can flow. Not just what one part of it is capable of flowing on a different setup. Its kind of deceiving imo.