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Bubbas Garage

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Hello everyone, im new to the site, and dsm's. I Have been thinkin about buying a Turbo Eagle Talon... but before i do, i have several question i would like to know, so i know what to look for... and some questions, just so i know. I tried using the search, but my computer is super slow at the moment and would take forever to find what im looking for! First of all. I am looking for a 1st gen Turbo Charged Eagle Talon. I would like to make it a quick little street car, maybe take it to the track with my buddy. My main questions are..

Is there a "Best Year" I should look for? ( want a 1st gen all wheel drive with the regular headlights, not flip up)
In order, what would be the best to worst motor to build up?
What will these motors hold for power on stock internals?
What would be the main things i should do to make it fast, and an estimated cost?

And just out of curiosity ( never owned a turbo vehicle, always wanted one) How do you change turbo psi?

Well, thats about all i can think of for now! I am sure that these are very common questions, but any help would be greatly appreciated!!
Thanks a ton
Jordan
 
To answer a few, 91-94 is best year 90 is odd ball and usually rusty. 6 bolt can handle up to 500hp on stock internals, to change boost would require a MBC manual boost controller.

You can start with the basics which is fuel mods fuel pump walbro 190 or 255, 2g maf and 550cc injectors are some good basic mods. then if you go farther than that comes the money pit, tuning and widebands and etc etc etc the list goes on.
 
For starters welcome. I may not answer all of your questions, but i will try and help you get you on your way.

Year wont be as specific for the entire car in what ive been reading around. Making sure what motor you have (6 bolt, 7 bolt) and what condition the car is in before you get it will be the most crucial. Many times today there have been so many motor swaps between the two you need to verify what you are working with before just jumping in to everything. This will make you much happier in the long run.

Before you start considering upgrades, make sure all maintenance is done and is up to date. No use in spending a bunch of money on a turbo, have boost leak and then blow your turbo...just something to keep in mind.
 
6 bolt engine from 90-92.5 (easiest way to tell if you have a 6 bolt engine is to look at the oil pan on the side of the harmonic balencer, if it sinks in its a 7 bolt if it pops out its a 6 bolt) Non-Flip up headlights started at 92.

I was able to purchase an eagle talon TSI its a 92 with a 6 bolt and non-flip up lights. However, make sure you do maintenance on it before modding it up. Including changing the timing belt. Trust me on this, you'll regret it later if you don't change the timing belt and components.

I had my TSI for two days and the timing belt snapped, all the valves from the head got bent and the engine got slight piston damage. now I'm putting all back together and hopefully it will be back on the street soon.

As for the upping the boost on the car just get a manual boost controller they are cheap and effective.
 
I think the year issue has been handled but as for the other q's. There's a recent thread for a record on a stock bottom end, ran at 39 psi and a 9.28 qm if I remember correctly, on a six bolt. For your speed needs, I'd suggest upgrading your fuel system before you do anything. Walbro 190-255 (if 255 an afpr is arguably essential), re-wire the pump (kits available on eBay), grab some 550-650cc injectors and an safc (bigger injectors with dsmlink or if u plan on passing the 300hp-ish mark). Intake and exhaust, 16g turbo or something as nice or nicer. If u plan on cranking up the boost (who doesn't LOL) get a boost controller/gauge and a wideband to make sure your not running it lean. Fmic and some logging software should get you quite a ways. Goes without saying all your belts, plugs, wires, fluids, boost leak test, Etc should be up to par. This is just my path, my friend I bought my car from went the opposite way, and did his fuel set up last, which is y he blew the head and sold it to me. get the fuel and tuning handled and you'll be able to take full advantage of every other mod you do.
 
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