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My car plan! how does it sound?

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2DaTrakNow

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Dec 20, 2005
hillsdale, Michigan
Alright, right now i have a 98 GST with an injen intake, pacesetter header, aftermarket boost gauge, Blitz BOV, and turbo timer. My plans are to get an aftermarket oil pressure gauge, boost controller, downpipe(with cut-out), MAFT(with an aluminum upper intercooler pipe so i can install the maft), 255 Walbro fuel pump, 650 injectors(in the future i will install nitrous and a big turbo), and plugs/wires.

The mods i have now seem to be fine. The only one im not sure about is the pacesetter header? Also, after i buy all of that stuff listed above i will get a wideband gauge and an Apex-i SAFC II to control my fuel. After that i will then install a bigger turbo and intercooler and maybe nitrous. I know that once i get the bigger turbo and nitrous i will need a ton of smaller things to control this and that, BUT....im just asking about my current plans in the first paragraph. Do they sounds good? And does anybody know approx. how much HP ill be making? 240-250? 250-260? 260-270? 270-280??? Or are there any other recomendations about other small mods i could do right now?
 
I would order them in order of priority

fuel pump
exhaust
FMIC/MAFT
Injectors
turbo
wideband/tuning-tools (dsmlink?)

A downpipe without an exhaust doesn't seem like it'd do much, personally, and frankly I don't see any reason spending money on piping for the stock smic when there is a deal for a full FMIC kit for $300 or some such (do a search here). An SAFC is nice to be able to do finer tuning than the MAFT is capable of, but depending on your final goal, I would consider DSMLink, especially if you are serious about a huge turbo & nitrous.

Also, eventually you'll want to get a limited slip diff, or an LSD insert, as 16g & bigger turbo's on the FWD's tend to get a little touchy on the street.

Honestly, start with a 3" exhaust, and go from there. The difference in power output when i went from a stock 1g exhaust to a 3" catless turboback (on a 14b) was quite huge.

Also: I don't consider plugs, wires, gaskets, thermostats, hoses, etc to be "mods" but maintenance items, and you should be making sure that they are changed at proper times, and in good working order. Losing a head to overheating because you didn't replace a $10 radiator hose, or heater hose is a really harsh lesson.

good luck!
 
slugsgomoo said:
I would order them in order of priority

fuel pump
exhaust
FMIC/MAFT
Injectors
turbo
wideband/tuning-tools (dsmlink?)
...
A downpipe without an exhaust doesn't seem like it'd do much, personally, and frankly I don't see any reason spending money on piping for the stock smic when there is a deal for a full FMIC kit for $300 or some such (do a search here)...
...
Honestly, start with a 3" exhaust, and go from there. The difference in power output when i went from a stock 1g exhaust to a 3" catless turboback (on a 14b) was quite huge...

good luck!

No a downpipe without an exhaust wont do much, but i would get a downpipe with a cut out on it. My friend in an SRT-4 has his downpipe and he has a button inside of his car that opens up a flap/cut out at the bend of his downpipe to let the exhaust flow out right there. To me, that would be better than a full exhaust because it almost exits right after the turbo. He gets a much faster spool up and picked up some horsepower. By doing that, i wont have to buy a full exhaust, and my car will still be quiet/legal for the street. Then when i go to the track ill hit the button and basically get rid of my exhaust. Also, the reason that i would get the piping for the SMIC is because the only way to mount the MAFT after the BOV is to upgrade the upper intercooler piping with something hard instead of the stock flex stuff.
 
dont you think you will get annoyed of having that exhaust cut out being soo lound.??? and knowing ## car would only be fast when its rediculsy loud. Just go get a 3" system, they sound great and increase the power huge. it just seems like you have your prioritlys on modding a lil off.
and if your going to go with both nitrous and boost you might need to build your engine. depending on how much n2o u use.

Just get a big turbo and big front mount and the supporting fuel mods and be done. I think you will net alot higher hp numbers and will be alot happier.
 
jaypeterson said:
dont you think you will get annoyed of having that exhaust cut out being soo lound.??? and knowing ## car would only be fast when its rediculsy loud. Just go get a 3" system, they sound great and increase the power huge. it just seems like you have your prioritlys on modding a lil off.
and if your going to go with both nitrous and boost you might need to build your engine. depending on how much n2o u use.

Just get a big turbo and big front mount and the supporting fuel mods and be done. I think you will net alot higher hp numbers and will be alot happier.


PLEASE read what i said.........i said that i would get an electronic cut out. That means that i can be loud and fast when I want to at the press of a simple button. This way is much more powerful than a full 3 inch exhaust system. PLUS it is alot cheaper. That way, i can be nice and quite and STOCK from the turbo back on the street when i dont need a full 3 inch exhaust, and when i bring my car to the track i will hit the button and open up my downpipe. Then when i leave the track, ill hit the button and wal la my exhaust is quiet again. Im not trying to be a smart ass or a prick, but that is the cheapest and most powerful way to go on a turbo engine. In my opinion (and maybe my opinion only) i beleive that that is the smartest and best exhaust route to take. The only thing that does suck, as you mentioned is that it will be ridiculously loud when it is fast. So i will agree with you there, but if you think about it... Every negative has a positive, so no matter what way i go im gonna have to give up something to get something just like everybody else.
 
yes I did read your post. I knew u wanted it for the track only. But y not spend a couple hundred bucks. and just put a apexi N1 system on it.. It will make just as much power as no exhaust and will sound amazing doing so. just my view.. you asked for what people think. And i just think your better off to do a nice 3" system.

I had no exhaust on my car for 2 hrs one day. I have a 60-1 turbo and tubular header and lots of other stuff. I didnt notice a difference between having no exhaust to having my modified apexi N1 3" system. yes over stock. it will be a huge increase. but not a 3" system,
 
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