Mod's for NOS?

[spooner_dee]

Ok so im by no means a fan of NOS, i personaly think its just a p-ussy way out of doing actual real work to gain real HP. but to contradict myself its one of the most effective ways to make a car fast, for short boosts anyways. and its also cheaper then other methods, i.e. turbos, engine rebuilds so on so forth. But i am how ever curious. For all you guys that have done NOS to your car, other then the installation of the whole NOS kit did anyone have to build up anything else on the engine in order to handle the NOS or did you just plug and spray? Not sure if id ever do NOS but if id consider it, would be nice to know what works and what has to be done. By the way no one take offense to what i said about NOS, its just my personal opinion, not ment to offend. thanks.

 

[GSGoinFast]

first, lets forget the word NOS... forget NOS forget NOS... now lets learn the correct word... nitrous... nitrous... say it with me... nitrous...

now, as for your questions, nothing needs to be beefed up. if you have a healthy engine it will work fine.

Its actually kinda hard work to put it in.

i dont know why you think its a ####y way out, but you can think that while your looking at my tail lights

 

[miamieclipse]

umm yea but with that said you might want some of the following done to spray nitrous :

Header, Complete Exhaust, Intake, better spark plug wires, one range colder copper plugs ...that should get you started

 

[Redmachine]

Hey miami, did you have to run a seperate fuel line for you wet kit, and does it spray into
your CAI? I am actually thinking about a dry kit but I know that a wet kit is more stable.

 

[GSGoinFast]

Hey miami, did you have to run a seperate fuel line for you wet kit, and does it spray into
your CAI? I am actually thinking about a dry kit but I know that a wet kit is more stable.

he doesnt have his installed yet. but i can answer that for you

first off, ive heard you cant run a dry kit on any 2gnt except for the 95 because the rest dont have fpr's. with that said, to tap the fuel line do this. its quite simple. and this is all for a zex install, dont know if its any different for others. look at your fuel rail. on the end(passanger side) there should be a black cap. unscrew this, it should come right off with jsut your fingers. now, use a schrader valve remover(99 cents at autozone) and remove the schrader valve in the end of the fuel rail(also known as the test port) you may get some fuel leakage but mine wasnt that bad. now, just screw the end of the 3 ft or whatever length it is(the second longest one in the kit) stainless steel line on the end of the fuel rail on the test port and your done. its that simple. now that line and the nitrous line from the bottle go to the smart box(once again this is zex). from the smart box comes 2 2ft braided lines, 1 for fuel and 1 for nitrous. both screw onto the nozzle(labled for what goes where). you drill a 9/16(dont hold me to that) hole in your intake and use a bulk head thats provided to hold the nozzle on. the nitrous and fuel are injected in your intake. check out my tech article i wrote, although somethings are wrong with the install, but nothing serious where it wont work, just some minor stuff that wont pass inspection at the track. the bottle must be mounted to metal, and the box must be mounted to metal. heres a linkhttp://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130336 check that out and ask me any more questions. its quite simple if you know how to wire it( i will help ya) it only took me a while cuz i was a being a pioneer having no clue what i was doing

PS i forgot the one thing you do need to "beef up" in a sense is the spark plugs. ditch any iridiums or platinums you may have and buy cheap old NGK copper plugs that are one range colder. the ones i got are the BKR7E-11 with a stock number of 1283. the first number in the code is the heat range. 6 is stock, so i went with 7, one range colder. you must also gap these down to .035 or .03. thats the only thing that really needs changing.

 

[miamieclipse]

I got the kit on wednesday, i work all day every day so i have not had a chance to install it...i was going to do it today but right now i am at work.....i got the call from hell this morning, some ppl who were supposed to show up didnt so i got stuck coming in today.........About the dry kit or wet kit get a wet kit....safer

 

[Redmachine]

thanks miami I think I just might go with the wet kit

 

[miamieclipse]

redmachine whats ure aim s/n?

 

[Redmachine]

dont use aim or icq sorry

 

[GSGoinFast]

yes go with a wet kit, its a bit safer by preventing a super lean condition when activated(only sprays if fuel pressure is adiquite) meaning you wont go as lean as you would with a dry kit who pushes up the fuel pressure. you also have a lot more potential out of a wet kit, because the dry can only go to i think 75 shot before the fuel system needs upgrading. with a wet kit, the fuel pump will probably be the only thing that needs to be upgraded to run a high shot. your injectors arnt really carrying any heavier load. oh and your fuel rail might need upgrading since you get your fuel for your nitrous from the fuel rail. but its nice, im running a 75 shot, and the only thing upgraded to run it was the new colder copper NGK plugs. its real nice.

you should also get a pressure gauge, and if desired a bottle heater to keep them psi up. ideal psi is 1200, and thats full. so i decided to spray, and i had 800 psi left, so i thought "oh i still have 3/4 of a tank left". well, apparently 800psi is empty... well i just assumed 0 would be empty, but that wouldnt make sense. so i got no push from it and my friend in a 3000gt pulled on me i was angry. but ya the zex bottle mounted pressure gauge was like $50.

good luck

 

[DSMJim]

Ok so im by no means a fan of NOS, i personaly think its just a p-ussy way out of doing actual real work to gain real HP.

So if ####ies use nitrous what are guys who don't and are slower? Super-####ies? Ohh maybe Ultra-####ies. The measure of your "####iness" is not what you do use, it's what you don't use.

It doesn't matter if the power comes from a bottle, a motor, or turbo. It's still HP and there when you want it. When I wanna go fast I have a turbo and I hit the gas. Then I wanted to go fast in my nitrous powere car, I just hit the gas and go fast. Just make sure your bottle is turned on first. Other then that, it's all the same when your whoopin arse.

 

[speedy13]

spoken like a true wiseman

 

[miamieclipse]

So if ####ies use nitrous what are guys who don't and are slower? Super-####ies? Ohh maybe Ultra-####ies. The measure of your "####iness" is not what you do use, it's what you don't use.

It doesn't matter if the power comes from a bottle, a motor, or turbo. It's still HP and there when you want it. When I wanna go fast I have a turbo and I hit the gas. Then I wanted to go fast in my nitrous powere car, I just hit the gas and go fast. Just make sure your bottle is turned on first. Other then that, it's all the same when your whoopin arse.

Thank you!

 

[spooner_dee]

So if ####ies use nitrous what are guys who don't and are slower? Super-####ies? Ohh maybe Ultra-####ies. The measure of your "####iness" is not what you do use, it's what you don't use.

It doesn't matter if the power comes from a bottle, a motor, or turbo. It's still HP and there when you want it. When I wanna go fast I have a turbo and I hit the gas. Then I wanted to go fast in my nitrous powere car, I just hit the gas and go fast. Just make sure your bottle is turned on first. Other then that, it's all the same when your whoopin arse.

More like spoken like a true LOSER or jackoff maybe. I said dont take offense it was MY opinion which i am fully entitled to but obviously some of u people CANT READ!! Get a life instead of trying to think ur all bad ass and startin internet beef, thats just what losers do. As for nitrous ITS NOT REAL HORSE POWER!!!! u push a button u get a small boost its gone, ur bottle goes empty YOU DONT GOT NOTHING. real horsepower is there all the time unless you destroy your engine. My car isnt fast im not saying it is, dont chalange me to a race cuz u think ur boss. My car is a 4 cylinder its SLOW! if i wanted a real fast car id buy a v6 or a v8. I love eclipses dont get me wrong but i dont see the point in spending like 10-20 grand to get the same exact hp as a v6 or a v8. All i care about with my car is it looking good sounding good and mild performance. When im done with this im goin nothing less then a v6 or atleast a turbo4.

 

[miamieclipse]

More like spoken like a true LOSER or jackoff maybe. I said dont take offense it was MY opinion which i am fully entitled to but obviously some of u people CANT READ!! Get a life instead of trying to think ur all bad ass and startin internet beef, thats just what losers do. As for nitrous ITS NOT REAL HORSE POWER!!!! u push a button u get a small boost its gone, ur bottle goes empty YOU DONT GOT NOTHING. real horsepower is there all the time unless you destroy your engine. My car isnt fast im not saying it is, dont chalange me to a race cuz u think ur boss. My car is a 4 cylinder its SLOW! if i wanted a real fast car id buy a v6 or a v8. I love eclipses dont get me wrong but i dont see the point in spending like 10-20 grand to get the same exact hp as a v6 or a v8. All i care about with my car is it looking good sounding good and mild performance. When im done with this im goin nothing less then a v6 or atleast a turbo4.

wait a second, if nitrous is just there @ certain times, the same could be said about a turbo........turbo is only htere when its in full boost, if your cruisin in 5th at 2000 rpms your turbo is not going to be spooling so the "power" is not there. Yes everyone is entitled to their own opinion & some v8's r a pos......thats my opinion

 

[Mike Marnik]

Is it just as easy to do the wet kit for a 1g as the 2nd gen because i was origanally just gonna go with a dry kit cuz it looked easier but it dont seem that hard from what u said an dif its safer and i can run more why not and i am pretty mechanicly inclined i can dot most every on my car.

 

[speedy13]

More like spoken like a true LOSER or jackoff maybe. I said dont take offense it was MY opinion which i am fully entitled to but obviously some of u people CANT READ!! Get a life instead of trying to think ur all bad ass and startin internet beef, thats just what losers do. As for nitrous ITS NOT REAL HORSE POWER!!!! u push a button u get a small boost its gone, ur bottle goes empty YOU DONT GOT NOTHING. real horsepower is there all the time unless you destroy your engine. My car isnt fast im not saying it is, dont chalange me to a race cuz u think ur boss. My car is a 4 cylinder its SLOW! if i wanted a real fast car id buy a v6 or a v8. I love eclipses dont get me wrong but i dont see the point in spending like 10-20 grand to get the same exact hp as a v6 or a v8. All i care about with my car is it looking good sounding good and mild performance. When im done with this im goin nothing less then a v6 or atleast a turbo4.

1.)these comments were not meant to offend you.their different peoples point of views=opinions
2.) by your logic. racecars arent' really making as much power as they say because their sure as hell not using gasoline right?so F1 cars don't really have 650 HP,and top fuels aren't really making like 5K hp? IN MY OPINION,if the power is at wheels,no matter what chemichals the engine is burning,the power is being generated therefore it's there.

 

[GSGoinFast]

More like spoken like a true LOSER or jackoff maybe. I said dont take offense it was MY opinion which i am fully entitled to but obviously some of u people CANT READ!! Get a life instead of trying to think ur all bad ass and startin internet beef, thats just what losers do. As for nitrous ITS NOT REAL HORSE POWER!!!! u push a button u get a small boost its gone, ur bottle goes empty YOU DONT GOT NOTHING. real horsepower is there all the time unless you destroy your engine. My car isnt fast im not saying it is, dont chalange me to a race cuz u think ur boss. My car is a 4 cylinder its SLOW! if i wanted a real fast car id buy a v6 or a v8. I love eclipses dont get me wrong but i dont see the point in spending like 10-20 grand to get the same exact hp as a v6 or a v8. All i care about with my car is it looking good sounding good and mild performance. When im done with this im goin nothing less then a v6 or atleast a turbo4.

$10k-$20k and not as much hp as a v6 or v8??? wtf??? you show me an eclipse with $20k worth of performance work done to it that is not making as much power as a stock V8 and i will be amazed.V6's and V8's arnt that great. the V6 eclipse doesnt make as much hp as the 4 banger turbo 2nd gen model. uhhh ... its not worth it

 

[spooner_dee]

its like talking to children, im done with you people

 

[GSGoinFast]

its like talking to children, im done with you people

thank you

 

[miamieclipse]

<-- rolls over the floor laughing

 

[fr33b1rth]

Just to end this little flame job, power is power no matter where is comes from. If you are using nitrous, you aren't a ####y because there is still that driving aspect and you have still modified your car past stock. If you pulled up to a nitrous fed funny car, i can 100% guarentee that you would get your a$$ handed to you, and the people that drive those are INSANE. It always seems to come down to nitrous vs. forced induction (turbo/blower) on the strip, and neither one of them are ####ys. Modifying your car beyond stock does have some risk, and you can blow up your car just a fast with nitrous as you can a turbo. The only ####ys on this board are the ones that won't modify their car at all.

 

[GSGoinFast]

Amen

 

[miamieclipse]

Amen

[Cough Post Whore Cough]

fr33b1rth: thank you for clearing this up,

moderator please lock this before it gets out of hand, thanks.