more hp turbo or nos

[95 gs]

want would I be better off with a 75 shot of nitrous or make my own turbo kit with a t25 turbo (stock turbo off a gst gsx) and a stock intercooler I got a 420a

 

[MattnGsx]

Dude turbo all the way.
Nos should just be there if you need that extra foot.
With nos you'll always be refilling the bottle, and not just the gas tank.

 

[GSGoinFast]

want would I be better off with a 75 shot of nitrous or make my own turbo kit with a t25 turbo (stock turbo off a gst gsx) and a stock intercooler I got a 420a

with the boost you can run on the 420a, you will probably get more power from nitrous, but the turbo will give you the lower power all the time. its your choice.

 

[SoilentGreen98]

just think ..... turbo = constant power ...... nitrous = burst of power

 

[Dwnshft]

NOs is just an extra kick like if you're overtaking or pushing your 1/4 mile timeslip, not constant add to your HP and you can only hit it when your on high gear. Opposed to turbo you have an extra boost whenever you need it and a definite HP. Hope this info is helpful for your decision.

 

[speedy13]

want would I be better off with a 75 shot of nitrous or make my own turbo kit with a t25 turbo (stock turbo off a gst gsx) and a stock intercooler I got a 420a

Yeah turbo is way better in my oppinion,but if your gonna be boostin you might as well get a 1g 14b and not that toy snail(words from dsm turbo owners,no offense to anyone)or a 16g.Now if you want,wham bang thank you maam,then nitrous is for you.

 

[Eclipsemblue]

stock internals with nitrious = boom or blown headgasket very easy :thumbdown your choice, it aint my car

 

[GSGoinFast]

stock internals with nitrious = boom or blown headgasket very easy :thumbdown your choice, it aint my car

first off thats not true at all, your retarded, dont talk.

NOs is just an extra kick like if you're overtaking or pushing your 1/4 mile timeslip, no definite add to your HP and you can only hit it when your on high gear. Opposed to turbo you have an extra boost whenever you need it and a definite HP. Hope this info is helpful for your decision.

More misinformation. you can hit it in whatever gear you want, not only high gears. People if you have no experience with nitrous then dont post "facts" about it.

 

[speedy13]

I'm with GS on this one.whoever sais nitrous is not a form of HP is just haiting or misinformed.who cares how your making power as long as you make it.Besides yeah nitrous is very dangerous if your not carefull and get a little happy with it.But so is an AFC tuner.
so turbo isn't really adding that much power when youre at the track using c-16 or 103 octane right? we all know or should know that when you use racing gas or any other more combustible fuel you will get a better time that let's say if you were using pump gas.my friends boosted eclipse made 227 whp on pump and made almost 30 more hp on race gas.who cares how he made 30 more hp, as long as he made it.just my.03 cents

 

[GSGoinFast]

I'm with GS on this one.whoever sais nitrous is not a form of HP is just haiting or misinformed.who cares how your making power as long as you make it.Besides yeah nitrous is very dangerous if your not carefull and get a little happy with it.But so is an AFC tuner.
so turbo isn't really adding that much power when youre at the track using c-16 or 103 octane right? we all know or should know that when you use racing gas or any other more combustible fuel you will get a better time that let's say if you were using pump gas.my friends boosted eclipse made 227 whp on pump and made almost 30 more hp on race gas.who cares how he made 30 more hp, as long as he made it.just my.03 cents

actually dude, race gas, well higher octane gas, is harder to combust. its used because it doesnt combust as easily, there fore it is more resistant to detination. the race gas itself wont give you more power, but with race gas you can bump up the shot of nitrous or raise the boost a little higher without detonating.

 

[Eclipsemblue]

first off thats not true at all, your retarded, dont talk.

Yes im a retart, even though that shit happend to a friend of mine, ive seen this shit happen and you think you know everything because you have it, it dont mean shit you ####. You proble dont even know how to do a compression check, let alone check your oil level.
Im not saying that shit is gonna happen, its just there is a risk if you dont tune it properly

 

[SoilentGreen98]

It was probably too big of a shot of nitrous cause Chris has been using it for some time now with not one problem, still on stock internals.

 

[Dwnshft]

No trash talking pls. Don't say I'm misinformed or anything but that's what a friend of mine experienced. How old is this kid anyway 11, 12. I respect your opinion.

 

[speedy13]

actually dude, race gas, well higher octane gas, is harder to combust. its used because it doesnt combust as easily, there fore it is more resistant to detination. the race gas itself wont give you more power, but with race gas you can bump up the shot of nitrous or raise the boost a little higher without detonating.

Thanks for clearing that up for us.I am assuming the same thing applies when raising the compression ratios such as in naturaly aspirated engines in race cars.correct me if I'm wrong.I hope we can all learn something from this forum.

 

[GSGoinFast]

first off thats not true at all, your retarded, dont talk.

Yes im a retart, even though that shit happend to a friend of mine, ive seen this shit happen and you think you know everything because you have it, it dont mean shit you ####. You proble dont even know how to do a compression check, let alone check your oil level.
Im not saying that shit is gonna happen, its just there is a risk if you dont tune it properly

well my compression is 200-210-200-200, so i knew how to do that. i only installed the nitrous, intake, header, udp, gauges, s-afc, shortshifter, and shifter bushings myself, the oil level is the next on my list of "Challenging things i need to learn how to do" i dont think your a retarD at all. im just telling you what happens in most situations, and not relying all my information on what happened to one person. nitrous gets a bad rap because of people like you who go around telling everyone there engines gonna blow or your gonna fry your piston rings, or your going to blow your intake welds from it because thats what The Fast and The Furious said.

No trash talking pls. Don't say I'm misinformed or anything but that's what a friend of mine experienced. How old is this kid anyway 11, 12. I respect your opinion.

sorry if i came off as an asshole, but as you can see above, i get a little aggitated when people spread misinformation about nitrous. im not sure why your friend had to spray in higher gears, unless he was running a very big shot with slicks, then i could see why. and im 18, although im told that i act 11 or 12 all the time, so it was a good guess.

 

[Dwnshft]

well my compression is 200-210-200-200, so i knew how to do that. i only installed the nitrous, intake, header, udp, gauges, s-afc, shortshifter, and shifter bushings myself, the oil level is the next on my list of "Challenging things i need to learn how to do" i dont think your a retarD at all. im just telling you what happens in most situations, and not relying all my information on what happened to one person. nitrous gets a bad rap because of people like you who go around telling everyone there engines gonna blow or your gonna fry your piston rings, or your going to blow your intake welds from it because thats what The Fast and The Furious said.



sorry if i came off as an asshole, but as you can see above, i get a little aggitated when people spread misinformation about nitrous. im not sure why your friend had to spray in higher gears, unless he was running a very big shot with slicks, then i could see why. and im 18, although im told that i act 11 or 12 all the time, so it was a good guess.

Oh ya it's a big shot of nos at about a 130 shot on salt flats, have you been there? all the way we're shooting for land speed on flats at 180 mph club on 4g63t engine. So that's our experienced, we don't do 1/4 mile track that much we shoot for land speed record.

 

[GSGoinFast]

Oh ya it's a big shot of nos at about a 130 shot on salt flats, have you been there? all the way we're shooting for land speed on flats at 180 mph club on 4g63t engine. So that's our experienced, we don't do 1/4 mile track that much we shoot for land speed record.

well that makes more sense. hitting the nitrous in lower gears will make you accellerate faster, but if you stop spraying in higher gears you dont get as high of a speed as you would if you had sprayed in the later gears. you also dont want to spray i large shot in low gears on good slicks because if all that force doesnt have a place to spill over, as in the tires spinning, your tranny takes all that stress and wont hold up very well. so dont say you can only spray in higher gears, when in fact that was just what was best suited for your friends situation, not the limits of the system.

 

[litlred515]

I have been using nitrous in my 96rs for about 6 months now on stock internals. I haven't gone above a 50 shot and haven't had a single problem with it at all. Also i have sprayed in all 5 gears. My venom system is actually set up to activate whenever i'm at WOT. It's been a great addition of power just when i need it and it was ALOT cheaper than going for a turbo. Depending on your money depends on what i would recommend.

 

[SnoopySLR]

GSGoinFast For Moderator!

My complaint with nitrous is its not constant. I would go with a turbo over nitrous anyday, and I bet every 2gnt'er would say they would have got a turbo if they had the money. Nitrous is your cheaper exception to boost.

For those who think a shot of NO2 is going to blow the head gasket...... WTF do you think boost is going to do?

 

[GSGoinFast]

GSGoinFast For Moderator!

My complaint with nitrous is its not constant. I would go with a turbo over nitrous anyday, and I bet every 2gnt'er would say they would have got a turbo if they had the money. Nitrous is your cheaper exception to boost.

For those who think a shot of NO2 is going to blow the head gasket...... WTF do you think boost is going to do?

haha thanks. i wish i had a turbo also. but, like you said money is the main factor in choosing your form of boost. im poor, so i went the cheaper non constant route of nitrous. it pretty much gives me the same power as a turbo, just not all the time. ill be turbo one day tho... hopefully

 

[nelapse]

IMO you guys whine too much and GSgoingfast acts like a spoiled brat.
Instead of whining just list the pros and cons.
Turbo's are infinite power, crank it up as much as you dare, you dont have to fill them up.
cons: they cost a lot, the can blow your engine, kills your gas milage
nitrous: pro) Best HP for the buck, can save you gas compared to longterm turbo use (only use when you need)
Cons: Have to fill them up, can blow your engine, have to upgrade to get more power.

They both are great, i would start with nitrous then work my way up to turbo. You have to build up your engine to use either one really effectively. GSgoingfast only has success because his engine isnt as old as everyone elses. it will catch up with him.
But if you build up your internals for nitrous they will be able to with stand turbos as well.
just my 0.02

 

[GSGoinFast]

IMO you guys whine too much and GSgoingfast acts like a spoiled brat.
Instead of whining just list the pros and cons.
Turbo's are infinite power, crank it up as much as you dare, you dont have to fill them up.
cons: they cost a lot, the can blow your engine, kills your gas milage
nitrous: pro) Best HP for the buck, can save you gas compared to longterm turbo use (only use when you need)
Cons: Have to fill them up, can blow your engine, have to upgrade to get more power.

They both are great, i would start with nitrous then work my way up to turbo. You have to build up your engine to use either one really effectively. GSgoingfast only has success because his engine isnt as old as everyone elses. it will catch up with him.
But if you build up your internals for nitrous they will be able to with stand turbos as well.
just my 0.02

thanks dude i appreciate it. you know how spoiled i am by working to earn the money to buy my mods. and by speaking from experience, unlike most people on here who talk about nitrous. man thats spoiled, im such a brat my engine is what, 0-4 years newer, ok. but its still got 76,000 miles on it. i dont think its gonna "catch up" to me as im not doing anything that will be hurting it. compression is still great, so im not worried about anything.

you got it a little backwards.

Turbo's crank it up as much as you dare, have to upgrade to get more power. you dont have to fill them up.
cons: they cost a lot, the can blow your engine, kills your gas milage
nitrous: pro) Best HP for the buck, can save you gas compared to longterm turbo use (only use when you need)
Cons: Have to fill them up, can blow your engine

i believe thats how it should be. with each one you reach the same power point where you need new internals, so theres no advantage or disadvantage there. after you upgrade the internals, nitrous all you have to do is put in a bigger jet in in about 5 minutes and is free if it came with the kit and like $5 if you need to buy the bigger ones. turbo your going to have to upgrade fuel components, intercoolers, and bigger turbos. nitrous you'll need a new fuel pump to run a really high shot. either one can blow your engine so theres not really an advantage or dissadvantage there either.

 

[put2gether]

Think about this... For the cost of a new turbo kit you could rebuild your engine with forged internals, and install a huge shot of nitrous. You'd come out faster and with a new motor. Just jet the kit right and you shouldn't have any problems. As long as you aren't spraying just to get to the grocery store faster, the bottle will last for a good while. How often would you race to use it anyways? It's just power when you NEED it. Besides... a random boost leak the size of lint, in a line you have to use a bicycle pump to find, cause it's killing your power sucks. Hows that for consistancy?

But hey it's just a thought.

 

[UDLUZE]

With a stock motor, I say spray it. Install a fuel pump, colder plugs, and use a jet calculator to determine correct jet sizes, and spray it. Yeah, u won't have the power all the time, but its easier to tune, cheap and a with a 75-100 shot will beat alot of stage1 and 2 2gnts. And yes the stock internals will easily hold 100 shot from the jug. Turbo is nice with a built bottom end, but just a tease with a stock one. Your car will be faster and more reliable with bolt ons and a shot rather than a cheap turbo kit.

 

[GSGoinFast]

With a stock motor, I say spray it. Install a fuel pump, colder plugs, and use a jet calculator to determine correct jet sizes, and spray it. Yeah, u won't have the power all the time, but its easier to tune, cheap and a with a 75-100 shot will beat alot of stage1 and 2 2gnts. And yes the stock internals will easily hold 100 shot from the jug. Turbo is nice with a built bottom end, but just a tease with a stock one. Your car will be faster and more reliable with bolt ons and a shot rather than a cheap turbo kit.

NO NO NO!! dont go over 75 shot on a stock motor unless you have the $$ to rebuild your engine.