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misses, knocks, and high fuel trims i need some help.

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Fattie92

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Dec 20, 2003
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Ok well iv got a miss at idle, and every now and then at crusing speeds. I put in new taylor wires,Mitsu knock sensor, and NGK bpr7es's gapped at .028, and did a boost leak test.. That didnt seem to help, so i put in a new fuel filter as well, and it didnt help. My Low fuel trim on the logger reads 139.9%, and i got it down to 107%, but i have a +14% correction across the board. Then if i free rev it to red line, i get knock counts to 39. I changed the oil(15-50 mobil one), didnt help. I do have some lifter tick, but i dont think its causing the knock... but then you never know. Bad injectors maybe? But they all ohmed out good.

Now for the WOT stuff... I had my High fuel trim corrections set to +17% across the board, and as soon as it started to boost (15psi), the knock would jump to 39-43, and timing drops to 0. Now i have a rewired, upgraded fuel pump (255), and im also running the stock FPR. Now could the stock FPR be bad? or do i need an AFPR?.. or something else that im missing?

Im just getting tired of now being able to drive my car at its full potential. Iv tried mostly everything i can think of, but now it seems to be over my head. So Please, any info would help!
 
You can always try running some race fuel and if the knock stays that high you have phantom knock which could be caused by old/dirty lifters.
 
the timing is good..5deg at base, and 8deg with the advance at idle...


i like the race fuel idea... ill try that this weekend.
 
well i scored some BG 44k injector/fuel system cleaner (very good sh!t). We use it at work for all the warrenty services.... i might try to do a top engine clean on it as well, just to make sure i have no carbon build up on my valves that would be suckin up all of my fuel...
 
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